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тАО11-05-2010 06:47 AM
тАО11-05-2010 06:47 AM
Re: Change to Patch services effective September 18, 2010
regarding the pointer to OpenVMS licensing information.
the page is now at
http://slmprovip.atlanta.hp.com/slm/swl/view.slm?page=index
and the link on tje licensing.hp.com site will be updated.
the page is now at
http://slmprovip.atlanta.hp.com/slm/swl/view.slm?page=index
and the link on tje licensing.hp.com site will be updated.
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тАО11-05-2010 10:02 AM
тАО11-05-2010 10:02 AM
Re: Change to Patch services effective September 18, 2010
>>the page is now at
Not any real licenses on those pages; just generic glossary-type term definitions and general overviews, references to documents that are not on-line and instructions to contact HP for more information. (and the site is pathetically slow and at times no-responsive -- not very impressive for a technology company)
>>the link on tje licensing.hp.com site will be updated.
I hope that the page pointed to by that link will be what's updated, or redirected at least, since it would be hard to change everyone's copy of the SPD's which point to that page.
I was looking for pages such as these:
http://www-03.ibm.com/software/sla/sladb.nsf
http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal/EN/US/IntellectualProperty/UseTerms/Default.aspx
Looking at the hard-copy I have for the (old) VMS versions I've actually bought (new or as a transfer) I find wording that says the customer may "load, install, enable, copy, transmit and modify Software only as necessary to exercise its rights to execute and access Software."
Sounds to me like if I have a patch that fixes an execute or access problem, I can apply it. Past policy was that it didn't matter where you got the patch, as long as it was the actual unmodified patch you could legally apply it.
Way-back when patches came on TK50's and such, it was SOP to only get one copy and to share that tape with other licensed friends. As long as your product version was licensed, you could patch it.
Again, I find nothing that restricts the application of patches. The published new policy restriction says that HP will only provide their patch *distribution* service to support agreement holders. Having access to HP's patch distribution service would be a convenience, but the policy does not place a restriction on the application of patches and the licenses I have give me the right to make my legally licensed versions work correctly. I suppose the lawyers are working on that, though.
Need for patches: 10
Need for any other OpenVMS support: 0
Not any real licenses on those pages; just generic glossary-type term definitions and general overviews, references to documents that are not on-line and instructions to contact HP for more information. (and the site is pathetically slow and at times no-responsive -- not very impressive for a technology company)
>>the link on tje licensing.hp.com site will be updated.
I hope that the page pointed to by that link will be what's updated, or redirected at least, since it would be hard to change everyone's copy of the SPD's which point to that page.
I was looking for pages such as these:
http://www-03.ibm.com/software/sla/sladb.nsf
http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal/EN/US/IntellectualProperty/UseTerms/Default.aspx
Looking at the hard-copy I have for the (old) VMS versions I've actually bought (new or as a transfer) I find wording that says the customer may "load, install, enable, copy, transmit and modify Software only as necessary to exercise its rights to execute and access Software."
Sounds to me like if I have a patch that fixes an execute or access problem, I can apply it. Past policy was that it didn't matter where you got the patch, as long as it was the actual unmodified patch you could legally apply it.
Way-back when patches came on TK50's and such, it was SOP to only get one copy and to share that tape with other licensed friends. As long as your product version was licensed, you could patch it.
Again, I find nothing that restricts the application of patches. The published new policy restriction says that HP will only provide their patch *distribution* service to support agreement holders. Having access to HP's patch distribution service would be a convenience, but the policy does not place a restriction on the application of patches and the licenses I have give me the right to make my legally licensed versions work correctly. I suppose the lawyers are working on that, though.
Need for patches: 10
Need for any other OpenVMS support: 0
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тАО11-08-2010 03:30 AM
тАО11-08-2010 03:30 AM
Re: Change to Patch services effective September 18, 2010
the licensing web site is in the process of being updated.
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