HP-UX 10.20 end-of-life

[john guardian]

I read (somewhere) that HP dropped support for this product in June 2003. I knew it had been dropped a while ago, but does anyone have an exact date? I'm trying to convince some old-timers to update to something a little newer.

Thanks.

[James R. Ferguson · Accepted solution]

Hi John:

Yes, I believe that the June 2003 date was the vanishing date. The 11.0 release is also defunct:

http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/history/slide2.html

Regards!

...JRF...

[Don Morris_1]

It was June 30, 2003 from what I can tell.

(A search on docs.hp.com for all of HP shows a page with that title, however the page itself is now gone so I can't really give you a URL... ).

If nothing else, this might drive the point home a little: http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/history/slide2.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

If 11.0 is past End of Support, moving beyond 10.20 is certainly a good idea.

[Sandman!]

Looks like it was June 30 of 2002. Read more about it over here...

http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/cache/288714-0-0-225-121.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

[Steven E. Protter]

Shalom,

I learned that the US Navy at a very high cost. So if you really need support and have the bucks, you can get it.

11.11 End of Life is 2013 as is 11.23.

I believe the Navy spends enough money to receive proper support is large enough to show up in public budgets.

If your system has a problem and its OS related HP doesn't have to help you. They are great folks and will try a little but if your system has value it needs software support. The economic argument for migration is based on how much money the system produces for your organization.

Plus, do your bosses want to look stupid using a system with an OS 4 years out of support and be blamed when something goes wrong.

SEP

[whiteknight]

John,

Here is what you want :-

http://h20338.www2.hp.com/hpux11i/downloads/public_hp-ux_systems_support.pdf

the exact date of end of support

WK
please assign points

[Bill Hassell]

The last Support Plus patch bundle was Dec 2001 and end of support means you cannot purchase a support contract from HP (at a reasonable price). Now if you purchase a time and materials package from HP, they will answer questions on a best effort basis. That means that some of the old timers may remember some of the idiosyncrasies and may even locate an old patch for you. But be aware that the solution may be 11.11 or learn to live with the problem.

End of support means no improvements. Now a truly stable application (no growth, no change in workload) might survive a few years beyond support. But security cannot be improved (beyond what is in 10.20) and that is change you may not be able to control. If you can keep the obsolete systems isolated and protected by high security routers, you should be OK.

You will also have to look at 11.11 because 11.00 is also obsolete and out of support. 11.11 is the last 32bit OS which may be important for your hardware. A lot of 10.20 hardware is incompatible with 11.23 and 11.31 so a hardware refresh is high;y likely. Note that migrating from old hardware like a K-class to an rp-series means and *LOT* faster box, and a large reduction in size, weight and power.

[Wim Rombauts]

If you want to convince some old-timers, maybe take the hardware path.
What hardware are you running on ? It must be seriously out of date, a big box using a lot of power and costing a lot in hardware maintenance.
I am convinced that you can swap your system with a new box with only 1/4 of your current CPU's. Of course, HP-UX 10.20 will not run on this brand new system, so take a look at 11.31, and you are fully supported and ready to run for another 10 years. (11.23 is fine too, but end of support is already set a 2013, so why not go to the newest OS available).

Major point to check : What software are you running, is it supported on HP-UX 11i v2 or HP-UX 11i v3 ? Does it run on Itanium processors ?

[Steven E. Protter]

Bill's comments concerning security are both important and makes me wonder why the Navy is still using the OS. On warships no less if my nonclassifed sources are correct.

:-)

SEP

[john guardian]

The 3 old-timers have 2-4 yrs to go to retirement. They want nothing to do with upgrades. Rather than upgrade for the sake of security, they've chosen to move these (3) machines to an isolated LAN that you can't get to unless you know it's there AND the network hardware/software connection "rules" allow it. These machines run Oracle and some old mechanical design software. The company agrees w/them that it wouldn't be worthwhile (cost). Of course, eventually, when one or more of these guys retires/dies etc, the business wind may blow from a different direction.

My thanks to all for the responses.