Please post your forums issues - August 2004

[Robert Abbott]

Human Right planks? There are no human rights being violated here. This is an HP provided forum just as there are many other privately owned forums across the internet. It has its guidelines and features which you agree to, the "Terms of use".

Make your suggestions and move on.

The human rights plank I enjoy the most is "free will". I like it here so I stay. If you don't like it, there are other forums to hang out in.

[Bharat Katkar]

Dan,
PLease go thr' this thread.
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=681265
Thanks,
Bharat

[charles k. norman]

Congratulations Robert on your very first post since registering over 2 years ago. I am impressed that it has taken my intervention here to bring you out into the open.

Luckily corporate governance is not dependent on your views. You might like to make a start reading what HP is doing not only to comply with its minimum obligations but in fact going way beyond that to establish the highest levels of best practice across the globe on the issue of HR.

Fortunately HP IMO recognise that unfettered free will of the type you express is an intellectually bancrupt notion and that it has to adopt policies across every sphere of its operations that meet the high standards of legislation and conventions.

I am pleased that HP in this respect both internally and externally has been recognised for its outstanding achievement in this field. Indeed HP has also done much to ensure HR are respected outside its sphere of control. Indeed these forums are part of HP activity in the field to provide access by employees, customers, users, etcetera. Indeed one can say HP is a world leader. Sorry to disappoint you but I shall not be moving on and you will see why if you read my profile - where at least seemingly unlike you I am prepared to devote time to volunarily help people in the HP Forums.

[Robert Abbott]

Easy boy. No need to attack my record.
The few posts I made were removed.

[Patrick Wallek]

No personal attacks here, please! Everyone is entitled to an opinion. No need to criticize someone because they don't agree with you.

[charles k. norman]

There is no attack Robert - just a statement of facts in reply to your suggestion that I move on. What I noted was a comparison mutatis mutandis. Messages conforming to the forum guidelines, which you relied upon in your first post are not deleted and thus ipso facto you you make your own case as to the standard your posts met and why inter alia there was none shown in your forum profile.

[Willem Grooters]

On the lock feature:
I wasn't aware of the discussions before I found out about it - and read some comments on this.

Ok - jsut some thoughts on this:

Locking a thread is a good thing. It signals the rest of the community "I've got my answer".
BUT:
- It disallows others to discuss the matter any further - and keep the whole issue together. That _may_ be a reason NOT to close the subject. Would it be reasonable that the author, at one point, could decide not to sumbit points - so ANY answer from that point on would get 1-3 points automatically - just by taking part. Or no points would have to be granted from that moment on.
- Would it be an idea to store closed threads in some "archive" cabinet, since I think these are less likely to be examined. This will free resources for open, running threads. Should not be done immediately, but after some time (2-3 months?)
- "automatic closure" seems feasable to me. Though it might be possible that an answer comes up after several months, I don't think that will happen very often. Therefore, a thread could be closed "due to lack of continuous response" if there hase been no response at all - from others than the author, might be an addition to that, to prevent keeping it open by the author.

Willem

[Willem Grooters]

Dan (and others)

Just realized when positing the previous message, I think that the messages on closing should go in the ITRC forums/general category, not only within HPUX/general.

Willem

[Steven E. Protter]

Admiring the deep dark quote of me.

Yes, I did have a method for closing a thread even without the feature.

I like the feature, though perhaps in hindsight perhaps popping a thread to the top when closed may be better as a user option.

I'm sure thats default behavior or the way the database keyes were set up and probably a bear to fix. We've had these issues with oracle app's in the past.

Some form of user testing and feedback would be wonderful though I understand the logistics of such an environment would be difficult.

Kinda glad i was off camping the past few days. Till i got rained on.

SEP

[charles k. norman]

Is there any way threads like the one below, which currently has 472 posts in it could be split into parts or the post order shown in reverse order to save time in scolling down all messages to get to the latest ones.

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=641503

In the alternative when a message thread has reached say 60 messages could it autoclose with the first 50 replies as Part n of message and Part n+1 of the message opens with the last 10 replies? Or perhaps a bit like a search function the answers could be paged to bring up the latest answers with earlier answers on other pages. This would imrove the navigation and download times for long threads.