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тАО09-27-2007 06:41 PM
тАО09-27-2007 06:41 PM
May be this is an old question, but I still cant find solution anywere.
ODS-5, MMS from DECset OpenVMS 8.2
MMS cant deal with sources with lower case suffixes .c for example, only with upper case .C.
Is there a solution exclude renaming .c to .C for all files or using MMK?
Solved! Go to Solution.
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тАО09-27-2007 07:55 PM
тАО09-27-2007 07:55 PM
SolutionSee also:
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=914555
AFAIK, nothing has changed.
I've brewn my own somewhat case-sensitive MMK. Have a look at:
http://www.quadratrix.be/opensource_material.html
Regards,
Kris (aka Qkcl)
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тАО09-27-2007 08:39 PM
тАО09-27-2007 08:39 PM
Re: MMS case-sensitivity ODS-5
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тАО09-27-2007 09:29 PM
тАО09-27-2007 09:29 PM
Re: MMS case-sensitivity ODS-5
I'm opensource porter/developer, so I should make software source distributions for all users without newest mms/mmk. So I should find another solution.
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тАО09-28-2007 12:29 AM
тАО09-28-2007 12:29 AM
Re: MMS case-sensitivity ODS-5
you can always include a DCL build procedure with your releases then no software other than the complier and VMS is required.
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тАО09-28-2007 03:03 AM
тАО09-28-2007 03:03 AM
Re: MMS case-sensitivity ODS-5
MMS /IDENTIFICATION ?
> MMS cant deal with sources with lower case
> suffixes .c for example, only with upper
> case .C.
What, exactly, are you trying to do? On one
of the TestDrive systems:
td183 $ mms /iden
%MMS-I-IDENT, MMS V3.8 ├В┬й Copyright 2007 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.
and I don't have any trouble with _files_
like "zip.c;1". I have not tried asking it
to deal with a _rule_ for, say, ".c.obj"
instead of ".C.OBJ", so I don't know what it
would do with that.
I did go through all my builders to change
all the product files (.obj, .exe, .hlb, ...)
to all-upper-case names (.OBJ, .EXE, .HLB,
...) to get things to work the same with the
new MMS as with the old ones (on ODS2 and
ODS5). The new MMS seemed to have trouble
dealing with dependencies which had different
cases. For example, it couldn't deal with
something like:
A.EXE : A.OBJ
[...]
a.obj : a.c
[...]
As I recall, it couldn't make the connection
between A.OBJ and a.obj, although the file
system certainly could.
I haven't tried it, but I assume that MMS is
still useless for projects where ".c" is C,
and ".C" is C++.
> you can always include a DCL build
> procedure with your releases then no
> software other than the complier and VMS is
> required.
Yes, but any serious development work pretty
much requires something more efficient than a
build-everything DCL script, so the result is
the need to maintain two separate builders,
and that adds to the maintenance workload.
Especially when it's a large project.
There's something to be said for an OS where
a program like "make" comes with the OS.
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тАО09-28-2007 04:14 AM
тАО09-28-2007 04:14 AM
Re: MMS case-sensitivity ODS-5
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тАО09-28-2007 04:26 AM
тАО09-28-2007 04:26 AM
Re: MMS case-sensitivity ODS-5
How much DCL? If the DCL required to build
project X efficiently involves more effort
than project X itself, then I'd prefer
another method.
Rewriting "make" (or MMS, or MMK) in DCL
could be done (and I've seen crude attempts),
but it wouldn't be a wise use of resources, I
claim.
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тАО09-30-2007 09:06 PM
тАО09-30-2007 09:06 PM
Re: MMS case-sensitivity ODS-5
I normally add some explicit rules to the descrip.mms file (see i.e. the changes I made for your Clamav port http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software2.html )
This worked well for all version of MMS. However if you install the last version with the "enhanced" case sensitivity enabled I did run into serious problems (so I switched it off).
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тАО09-30-2007 09:08 PM
тАО09-30-2007 09:08 PM
Re: MMS case-sensitivity ODS-5
I normally add some explicit rules to the descrip.mms file (see i.e. the changes I made for your Clamav port http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software2.html )
This worked well for all version of MMS. However if you install the last version with the "enhanced" case sensitivity enabled I did run into serious problems (so I switched it off).