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тАО01-04-2005 10:35 PM
тАО01-04-2005 10:35 PM
Difference between 11i.v1 & 11iv2
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тАО01-04-2005 10:40 PM
тАО01-04-2005 10:40 PM
Re: Difference between 11i.v1 & 11iv2
The biggest difference is that V2 runs on both PA-RISC and Itanium. I'm sure there are many other improvements, but that's the big one.
Pete
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тАО01-04-2005 11:05 PM
тАО01-04-2005 11:05 PM
Re: Difference between 11i.v1 & 11iv2
HP-UX 11iV2 or 11.23 is IPF (Itanium) only
HP-UX 11iV2 September 04 (also known as 11iV2 Update2 and 11.23PI) is for both PARISC and IPF.
See the Release notes at:
http://docs.hp.com
http://docs.hp.com/en/oshpux11i.html#Release%20Notes
http://docs.hp.com/en/oshpux11iv2.html#Release%20Notes
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тАО01-05-2005 12:44 AM
тАО01-05-2005 12:44 AM
Re: Difference between 11i.v1 & 11iv2
It appears HP has changed the way we handle the kernel with this release. The core kernel is basically a frozen piece of code. Configurations are created that are applied at boot up or on the fly. Multiple configurations can exist at the same time. Many "tunables" are now dynamic, some even becoming more or less part of the kernel, so they do not need to be changed. The OS manages these parameters automatically. Some drivers can be added and removed on the fly, like CDFS file system. I expect V3 will add even more DLKM products.
Management of HP-UX is also changing. SAM functionality is reduced in this release as new web based tools are taking over these functions. It is expected that SAM will eventually be completely removed. kcweb is the tool used for tuning the kernel. pdweb manages periferal devices and SPB (software package builder). SCM or HP Systems Insight Manager becomes a major component of system administration. parmgr is the tool used for partition management. All have both GUI and command line interfaces.
Presently, when you boot a PA Risc system, you interact with the PDC, BCH and ISL. A new layered boot tool allows for standardization when booting different platforms. An EFI boot services layer sits on top of a SAL (system abstraction layer) which sits on top of a PAL (processor abstraction layer) which talks to the microcode.
Disk layout changes may not directly impact you, but are something you need to be aware of. Besides the LIF, ISL and HP-UX areas there is now a MBR (master boot record. not used), a Partition Table (duplicated at end of disk), an EFI partition and a HP Service Partition. The ISL is no longer used and is now part of the HP-UX area for compatibility reasons.
When you cold install a system, you can choose a security level. Bastille is part of the OS and is run at install time. There are 4 options you can choose from when you install. These are Security Tool Infrastructure installation only, Host-based lockdown, DMZ Manager lockdown or Full DMZ lockdown.
The customer class also covers n-Par information and commands.
Several library changes happening may be of interest to programmers and application administrators. New aC++ support libraries, enhanced math libraries and more.
CDE is being deprecated. It runs through the Aries PA compatibility application and will not be migrated to native mode IA.
Others: Compressed Crash Dump, IPv6, WBEM, OLAR improvements, MxN thread support, lazy loading, Adaptive Address Space (SAS) to ease porting to HP-UX. and more.
Rgds...Geoff
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тАО01-05-2005 01:02 AM
тАО01-05-2005 01:02 AM
Re: Difference between 11i.v1 & 11iv2
Another difference that I can add is that future enhancements to VxVM and VxFS (the Veritas Storage Foundation Products - a.k.a. HP-UX's recently announced shortcut to achieving Tru64 functionality..) - will only happen on HP-UX 11i v2. I doubt if there will be updates to HP-UX 11i v1 implementations of Veritas products - but as they are rock solid and tightly integrated - complain I will not.
BTW, 3 months after v2's release - we have yet to receive our HP-UX 11i v2 CD/DVD set.
Ahead - HP-UX for Opteron/EMT64? Or am I just dreaming.. ;-)
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тАО01-05-2005 01:34 AM
тАО01-05-2005 01:34 AM
Re: Difference between 11i.v1 & 11iv2
A major difference as regards to 11i V1 is that there has been much less field/end user testing on this OS.
We try and wait for something to be in wide use for a year before we deploy it.
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тАО01-05-2005 01:39 AM
тАО01-05-2005 01:39 AM
Re: Difference between 11i.v1 & 11iv2
We are installing in our lab environment - rolling first production end of first quarter this year.
Rgds...Geoff
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тАО01-05-2005 01:47 AM
тАО01-05-2005 01:47 AM
Re: Difference between 11i.v1 & 11iv2
Will you be installing v2 on your PARISC environments? Please let us know your progress/deployment status when you get there.
If one has a running v2 PARISC System - can the environment simply be migrated to an Itanium environment? For example - a vanilla Oracle Server - just Oracle software and a handfull of simple C executables (for PARISC and cooked filesystems managed by LVM/VxVM/VxFS(OJFS) -- can the filesystems simply be "mounted" on to an Integrity system and operations resumed? Or will I need to have a new version of Oracle native to Itanium and recompiled versions of my C applications?
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тАО01-05-2005 06:46 PM
тАО01-05-2005 06:46 PM
Re: Difference between 11i.v1 & 11iv2
Moving "/" from PA to IPF is not a good idea - I do not think that both PA and IPF kernels are installed at the same time.
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тАО01-05-2005 09:34 PM
тАО01-05-2005 09:34 PM
Re: Difference between 11i.v1 & 11iv2
Up to 11.00 the new versions changed the numbers. Then came 11i v1 but for historical reasons the versions numbers where still keept (11.11).
Then we had 11i v1.5, v1.6 and v2 (11.23). These tree ran on IA only. Now one would have expected 11i v2.something. But along came a new version of 11i v2. Also known as 11i v2 0409 or 11.23PI. It does have some changes compaired to the 11i v2 and it supports newer PA systems.
Regards,
Trond