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daliborazure
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Synergy Server connections to vmware iSCSI and LACP

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I was informed by Vmware (we will be using Synergy with esxi servers) that configuring LACP with ISCSI ports wouldnt be good idea

https://hewlettpackard.github.io/hpe-solutions-hpecp/5.0/Physical%20environment%20configuration/Physical%20environment%20configuration.html#cabling-the-hpe-synergy-12000-frames-and-hpe-virtual-connect-40gb-se-f8-modules-for-hpe-synergy

 

This makes complete sense but I am wondering whether we should use MC-LAG on iSCSI connections as vmware strongly suggests this is not good idea since we already have iSCSI MPIO and LAG these ports would not be that good idea

 

What would your opinion would be on that

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ChrisLynch
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Re: Synergy Server connections to vmware iSCSI and LACP

MPIO should be used for any block storage protocol connection.  LACP could be used, but it doesn't help with the endpoint path management, only the server side connection.  As LACP in a point-to-point protocol (NIC to adjacent switch port; VC in this case).  LACP is supported on the FlexNIC, so I would suggest disabling LACP on your iSCSI connections, but use it for other IP-based traffic.


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daliborazure
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Re: Synergy Server connections to vmware iSCSI and LACP

So basically if we dont use LACP then one uplink port per Virtual interconnect is sufficient

Or we would still benefit using 2 child ports without LACP

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ChrisLynch
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Re: Synergy Server connections to vmware iSCSI and LACP

Uplinks are completely different.  You should be using LACP with uplinks, regardless.  I was referring to Server Profile Connections.


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daliborazure
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Re: Synergy Server connections to vmware iSCSI and LACP

So that applies to storage connections as well as Vmware told me not to use LACP for iSCSI communication. I can use LACP for any other connections but not for block storage

 

SO LACP is ok to use for block storage. We dont use LAG connetions in server profile. So uplinks can be LAG even for iSCSI communication

ChrisLynch
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Re: Synergy Server connections to vmware iSCSI and LACP

We dont use LAG connetions in server profile. So uplinks can be LAG even for iSCSI communication

Correct.


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daliborazure
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Re: Synergy Server connections to vmware iSCSI and LACP

The only reason I even brought up this question is that VMware told me

After talking with a storage colleague, storage performance issues occur when you have LACP protocals running on the network side and multipathing happening on the storage side.

This means that no LACP as storage performance can be affected. Of course on any other uplinks LACP is OK but they say not for block storage connection.

ChrisLynch
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Re: Synergy Server connections to vmware iSCSI and LACP

I don't see how.  LACP is a very common protocol use for edge switch devices to increase the available bandwidth beyond the physical port limitations.  MPIO has no affect on these uplink ports.


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cer113
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Re: Synergy Server connections to vmware iSCSI and LACP

This is information that I got from Vmware support tech

Using LACP with iSCSI is not a best practice.  Here is an additional doc on that subject:  https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-vSphere/7.0/com.vmware.vsphere.networking.doc/GUID-3FDE1E96-9217-4FE6-8B76-6E3A64766828.html

After talking with a storage colleague, storage performance issues occur when you have LACP protocals running on the network side and multipathing happening on the storage side.

Here is a VMware KB for best practice configuration of iSCSI:  Configuring iSCSI port binding with multiple NICs in one vSwitch for VMware ESXi (2045040), https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2045040

 

Also in this article

https://core.vmware.com/blog/iscsi-and-laglacp

https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/1001938

  • Do not use for iSCSI software multipathing. iSCSI software mulitpathing requires just one uplink per vmkernel, and link aggregation gives it more than one.

Now I may not understand what are they describing here but to me these statements are quite clear