As usual, showing actual commands with their actual output can be more helpful than vague descriptions or interpretations. tcpip show version dire /full file_name > [...] V8.3-1H1 So that's an IA64 system? > [...] why [...]? Ask HP? I know nothing, but my guess would be that it's determining the effective (byte-stream) file size (the hard way, by reading the whole thing and counting the bytes). Around here, it does it for files with Record format: Stream_LF as well as more obvious candidates, like Record format: Variable length. That's what HP's port of GnuPG does, and what mine did, until a victim complained, and I added some slightly more clever code to use stat() on the file types where stat() gives the right answer, and only read through the ones where stat() can't be trusted. alp $ tcpip show version HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.6 - ECO 5 on a COMPAQ Professional Workstation XP1000 running OpenVMS V8.3