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    <title>topic Re: Performance policy blocksizes - what does it do exactly? in Array Performance and Data Protection</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/array-performance-and-data/performance-policy-blocksizes-what-does-it-do-exactly/m-p/6986169#M1053</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #339966;"&gt;Hi Jayst,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #339966;"&gt;Thanks for creating this thread...&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;1.) what does the array actually does different when setting blocksize to 4K instead of 16K?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The goal is to better optimise the application. Everything internal to Nimble is variable block, so it doesn’t affect much on the array operationally other than some fine optimisations internally. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;The tagging of the volume with an appropriate application policy is also very useful for understanding different workloads that are deployed within the install base.&amp;nbsp; For instance, if we see an obscure application we can use Infosight to understand the attributes of the dataset/application and use that for guidance when sizing and planning for future/other projects. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;2.) Does blocksize have any impact on Compression efficiency? Is a proper blocksize for the used application yield a beter compression rate?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;3.) does blocksize have any impact on Dedupe efficiency for AFA models? Is a proper blocksize for the used application yield a beter dedupe rate?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;4.) does it affect cache ? In what way?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;I'll answer all three questions above in one - In short No, the blocksize’s effect on compression, dedupe, cache, etc. would be almost unmeasurable.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;If you'd like a deeper understanding, please feel free to reach out to your local Dutch SE team&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;Many thanks &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;Rich&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2016 16:29:02 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>rfenton4</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-07-29T16:29:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Performance policy blocksizes - what does it do exactly?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/array-performance-and-data/performance-policy-blocksizes-what-does-it-do-exactly/m-p/6986168#M1052</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm reading up on best practices connecting apps to Nimble Arrays and a big topic is Performance Policies.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I try to understand the impact of the blocksize setting and what it actually does different for each value. I'm having difficulty finding documentation about the value, other than recommended values in documents like &lt;A href="https://community.hpe.com/docs/DOC-1185"&gt;Proper Block Alignment.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's clear to me performance is impacted when blocksizes are not set optimally, but i dont know why &lt;IMG src="https://community.hpe.com/legacyfs/online/emoticons/happy.png" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Traditionally back in the RAID configuration era &lt;IMG src="https://community.hpe.com/legacyfs/online/emoticons/wink.png" /&gt;, we've been tuning stripesizes (for full stripe writes), element sizes etc etc, then i knew why, now not so much.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So my questions:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.) what does the array actually does different when setting blocksize to 4K instead of 16K?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2.) Does blocksize have any impact on Compression efficiency? Is a proper blocksize for the used application yield a beter compression rate?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3.) does blocksize have any impact on Dedupe efficiency for AFA models? Is a proper blocksize for the used application yield a beter dedupe rate?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4.) does it affect cache ? In what way?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:37:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/array-performance-and-data/performance-policy-blocksizes-what-does-it-do-exactly/m-p/6986168#M1052</guid>
      <dc:creator>jayst136</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-26T18:37:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Performance policy blocksizes - what does it do exactly?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/array-performance-and-data/performance-policy-blocksizes-what-does-it-do-exactly/m-p/6986169#M1053</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #339966;"&gt;Hi Jayst,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #339966;"&gt;Thanks for creating this thread...&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;1.) what does the array actually does different when setting blocksize to 4K instead of 16K?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The goal is to better optimise the application. Everything internal to Nimble is variable block, so it doesn’t affect much on the array operationally other than some fine optimisations internally. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;The tagging of the volume with an appropriate application policy is also very useful for understanding different workloads that are deployed within the install base.&amp;nbsp; For instance, if we see an obscure application we can use Infosight to understand the attributes of the dataset/application and use that for guidance when sizing and planning for future/other projects. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;2.) Does blocksize have any impact on Compression efficiency? Is a proper blocksize for the used application yield a beter compression rate?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;3.) does blocksize have any impact on Dedupe efficiency for AFA models? Is a proper blocksize for the used application yield a beter dedupe rate?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;4.) does it affect cache ? In what way?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;I'll answer all three questions above in one - In short No, the blocksize’s effect on compression, dedupe, cache, etc. would be almost unmeasurable.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;If you'd like a deeper understanding, please feel free to reach out to your local Dutch SE team&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;Many thanks &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;Rich&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2016 16:29:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/array-performance-and-data/performance-policy-blocksizes-what-does-it-do-exactly/m-p/6986169#M1053</guid>
      <dc:creator>rfenton4</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-29T16:29:02Z</dc:date>
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