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    <title>topic Re: ESXi snaps with memory taking longer to create on Nimble than other storage in Array Performance and Data Protection</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/array-performance-and-data/esxi-snaps-with-memory-taking-longer-to-create-on-nimble-than/m-p/6984124#M643</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think it was a fair comparison that I tried on vm's of various sizes none of them loaded with user sessions. Note quiesing is an optional component of a snapshot and one that I did not include. The VNX is at capacity and running most of our environment while the Nimble has next to nothing on it. So just to be sure I just did a snap of a small 2GRAM/40Gig of storage vm on the VNX. 45 seconds with memory. delete snap and svmo to the Nimble... the time was quicker.. 25 seconds. Hmmm. So try a larger 8GRAM/600 gig of storage. 6 minutes to snap with mem on the VNx. Move it to the Nimble... and 6 minutes to snap.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The difference between two days is I've move little more load onto the Nimble.&amp;nbsp; Must have been cache warm up &lt;IMG src="https://community.hpe.com/legacyfs/online/emoticons/wink.png" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note to moderator, you can delete this thread if the title appears disparaging.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:57:41 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ron_fisher</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-02-24T22:57:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ESXi snaps with memory taking longer to create on Nimble than other storage</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/array-performance-and-data/esxi-snaps-with-memory-taking-longer-to-create-on-nimble-than/m-p/6984122#M641</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Greetings,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Mind you I do not promote the use of vmware snaps for anything but the most short term use possible. That said, I've been doing some basic functionality testing of my vSphere 5.5 cluster, 9 BL460's software iSCSI connected over meshed 10GE to a new CS-500 (just upgraded to 2.2.5). So far things are blazing fast, MPIO is well balanced and I'm getting terrific compression using eager zeroed thick vmdk's.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just noticed on two different VM's that if I do a vmware snap and include memory, the snap takes a crazy long time to create versus a VM on my fiber channel connected VNX. Leave off the memory and it it fast as it should be. I monitored file creation using the vmware datastore browser and all the diff files and snapshot memory files are created very quickly but the snap takes 15+ minutes for smaller vm's and close to an hour for a large (64GRAM with 3T storage (compressed to 600G thank you very much!).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I view the process in the Nimble console I see a constant stream of writes (300 IOP's) during the whole process.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Something to do with Compression on the Nimble or something else?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for any insight&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;R&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:32:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ron_fisher</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-20T23:32:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ESXi snaps with memory taking longer to create on Nimble than other storage</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/array-performance-and-data/esxi-snaps-with-memory-taking-longer-to-create-on-nimble-than/m-p/6984123#M642</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ron,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; When you took the VMware-based snapshot of the VM on your 'Echo Mary Charlie' array, was it the *exact* same VM that's running on the Nimble?&amp;nbsp; If you have a lot more memory access going on with the Nimble-stored VM (say, it's a file server servicing many inbound clients, reading and writing) and, say, a different VM (that's idle) on your 'Charlie array, I'd expect that the VMware-based snapshot process would run *way* slowerm, as it has to quiesce the VM and write out the memory contents.&amp;nbsp; If you didn't storage vMotion the same VM between the two arrays, I'm afraid it's not quite a fair comparison!&amp;nbsp; &lt;IMG src="https://community.hpe.com/legacyfs/online/emoticons/happy.png" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Note: I'm basing some of my commentary from a similar thread found on VMware's community site: &lt;A href="https://communities.vmware.com/thread/435448" title="https://communities.vmware.com/thread/435448"&gt;Why are snapshots with memory so slow? | VMware Communities&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; So....apples to apples, or apples to oranges?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Thanks for your patience, Ron!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-Neil&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:49:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: ESXi snaps with memory taking longer to create on Nimble than other storage</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/array-performance-and-data/esxi-snaps-with-memory-taking-longer-to-create-on-nimble-than/m-p/6984124#M643</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think it was a fair comparison that I tried on vm's of various sizes none of them loaded with user sessions. Note quiesing is an optional component of a snapshot and one that I did not include. The VNX is at capacity and running most of our environment while the Nimble has next to nothing on it. So just to be sure I just did a snap of a small 2GRAM/40Gig of storage vm on the VNX. 45 seconds with memory. delete snap and svmo to the Nimble... the time was quicker.. 25 seconds. Hmmm. So try a larger 8GRAM/600 gig of storage. 6 minutes to snap with mem on the VNx. Move it to the Nimble... and 6 minutes to snap.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The difference between two days is I've move little more load onto the Nimble.&amp;nbsp; Must have been cache warm up &lt;IMG src="https://community.hpe.com/legacyfs/online/emoticons/wink.png" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note to moderator, you can delete this thread if the title appears disparaging.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:57:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ron_fisher</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-24T22:57:41Z</dc:date>
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