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    <title>topic Re: HP SV managers behaviour? in StoreVirtual Storage</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/hp-sv-managers-behaviour/m-p/6968330#M10902</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;There are 2 related chapters in the guide:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;8 Working with management groups&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;9 Working with managers and quorum&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The basic problem for each cluster is to prevent a split brain, so in your situation you would have for example 2 managers in DC1, 2 in DC2 and finally 1 in another location.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In a split brain situation or when a DC dies, both or the surviving DC will try to get the last manager in the third location (or you manage a virtual manager), 3 managers are the quorum and will stay.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Read the chapters in the guide for detailed information.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2017 11:25:11 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Torsten.</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-06-16T11:25:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>HP SV managers behaviour?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/hp-sv-managers-behaviour/m-p/6968291#M10901</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have a StoreVirtual 4530 management group with 6 nodes in one cluster and a FOM.&lt;BR /&gt;The cluster is evenly balanced between two datacenters.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm curious what will happen in case of a datacenter failure, so i started reading some articles about the manager, virtual managers and FOMs but i doesn't give me all the answers.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So let's say DC1 fails, which has 2 managers running.&lt;BR /&gt;DC2 is still online with 3 managers running&lt;BR /&gt;Question:&amp;nbsp;All volumes still running?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What if DC2 fails, which has 3 managers&lt;BR /&gt;DC1 still running with 2 managers&lt;BR /&gt;Question:&lt;BR /&gt;1. All volumes still running?&lt;BR /&gt;2. Will one of the nodes become manager automatically? or do i need to make one node manager by manual action?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Seems to be a simple question, but can't find the answer anywhere&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Dennis&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2017 06:34:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/hp-sv-managers-behaviour/m-p/6968291#M10901</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dennisvw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-16T06:34:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HP SV managers behaviour?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/hp-sv-managers-behaviour/m-p/6968330#M10902</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;There are 2 related chapters in the guide:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;8 Working with management groups&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;9 Working with managers and quorum&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The basic problem for each cluster is to prevent a split brain, so in your situation you would have for example 2 managers in DC1, 2 in DC2 and finally 1 in another location.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In a split brain situation or when a DC dies, both or the surviving DC will try to get the last manager in the third location (or you manage a virtual manager), 3 managers are the quorum and will stay.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Read the chapters in the guide for detailed information.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2017 11:25:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/hp-sv-managers-behaviour/m-p/6968330#M10902</guid>
      <dc:creator>Torsten.</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-16T11:25:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HP SV managers behaviour?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/hp-sv-managers-behaviour/m-p/6968332#M10903</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the reply.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I understand the quorom requirements, I will try to more dramitize the scenario.&lt;BR /&gt;DC1 has 3 nodes (2 of them are manager), DC2 has 3 nodes (2 of them are manager), FOM is located in DC2 on seperated hardware.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;DC2 goes down (all cooling systems fail / etc / etc.)&lt;BR /&gt;DC1 now has 3 nodes and only 2 managers.&lt;BR /&gt;Will the 3rd node become manager automatically to prevent a lock on the storage system?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Dennis&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2017 12:07:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/hp-sv-managers-behaviour/m-p/6968332#M10903</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dennisvw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-16T12:07:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HP SV managers behaviour?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/hp-sv-managers-behaviour/m-p/6968338#M10904</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The guide says&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;" &lt;SPAN class="fontstyle0"&gt;Install the Failover Manager on network hardware other than the storage systems&lt;BR /&gt;in the SAN. This ensures that the Failover Manager is available for failover and quorum operations&lt;BR /&gt;if a storage system in the SAN becomes unavailable."&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle0"&gt;This assumes FOM is still available if one group is down.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle0"&gt;In your scenario the group and the FOM is down, so nobody can get the quorum -&amp;gt; all is down.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle0"&gt;Hence the FOM should be in a third location.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle0"&gt;In your case manual intervention is needed.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle0"&gt;This is based on my understanding of the situation.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2017 12:31:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/hp-sv-managers-behaviour/m-p/6968338#M10904</guid>
      <dc:creator>Torsten.</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-16T12:31:34Z</dc:date>
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