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    <title>topic VSA Performance with SSD tier &amp;amp; SmartCache/CacheCade? in StoreVirtual Storage</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6404912#M8079</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Does anyone have any real-world performance they'd care to share on using StoreVirtual VSA with a good sized SSD tier and perhaps adding an SSD backed RAID cache (SmartCache/CacheCade) please?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We use StoreVirtual right now (4300/4500 G2) and whilst the feature set is a bit lacking it's been flawless in terms of uptime so when it's replaced one option is two or four boxes running VSA doing combined storage/compute.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm still not entirely clear whether I can "force" a LUN to SSD (i.e. SQL databases) or if all I can do is enable tiering and hope/assume it will mostly be tiered?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looking at something like a 16 or 20 bay dual E5-26xx box with 4x SSDs in RAID5 and 7.2K SAS for the rest in hardware RAID10.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also I'd be very interested in thoughts on 2 nodes vs. 4 in a two-site metro-cluster with a dedicated third site running the FOM.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 21:22:31 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Paul Hutchings</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-03-09T21:22:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>VSA Performance with SSD tier &amp; SmartCache/CacheCade?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6404912#M8079</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Does anyone have any real-world performance they'd care to share on using StoreVirtual VSA with a good sized SSD tier and perhaps adding an SSD backed RAID cache (SmartCache/CacheCade) please?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We use StoreVirtual right now (4300/4500 G2) and whilst the feature set is a bit lacking it's been flawless in terms of uptime so when it's replaced one option is two or four boxes running VSA doing combined storage/compute.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm still not entirely clear whether I can "force" a LUN to SSD (i.e. SQL databases) or if all I can do is enable tiering and hope/assume it will mostly be tiered?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looking at something like a 16 or 20 bay dual E5-26xx box with 4x SSDs in RAID5 and 7.2K SAS for the rest in hardware RAID10.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also I'd be very interested in thoughts on 2 nodes vs. 4 in a two-site metro-cluster with a dedicated third site running the FOM.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 21:22:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6404912#M8079</guid>
      <dc:creator>Paul Hutchings</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-03-09T21:22:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: VSA Performance with SSD tier &amp; SmartCache/CacheCade?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6404976#M8080</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;YMMV!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;These are real world numbers that I took from my ever evolving setup. As you can see the numbers are all over the place.&lt;BR /&gt;My take is this: I've so far found that VSA 2014 with AO does not offer the same performance as using SSDs only as the underlying storage for a VSA. It might have to do with the amount of data that I currently have on the AO enabled nodes.&lt;BR /&gt;Maybe the AO cache hit ratios are too low?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My storage is mostly used for VM boots, SQL and Exch.&amp;nbsp; Using most HP Enterprise SSD and BL IO (fusion IO) cards, and HP 6GBs SAS.&lt;BR /&gt;VSAs are&amp;nbsp; on Proliant BLC blades with 10GbE interconnects w. 4Gbs Max dedicated to the SAN Vnet in VC. I've thrown in a direct attached SSD metric for reference.&lt;BR /&gt;Note that the formatted block size for the LUNs will naturally affect the performance of the LUNs. I've included 4K and 8K metrics.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;QD - 4&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 4K Write&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4K Read&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 8K Write&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;8K Read&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;Direct attach MLC SSD R1 (No VSA)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 230MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 360MB/sec&amp;nbsp; 240MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 354MB/sec&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;iscsi VSA 10.5 &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;SSD MLC&amp;nbsp; R5&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 62MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;138MB/sec&amp;nbsp; 74MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;160MB/sec&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;iscsi VSA 10.5 SSD FusionIO&amp;nbsp; R0&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 226MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;200MB/sec&amp;nbsp; 242MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 250MB/sec&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;iscsi VSA 10.5 &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;SATA&amp;nbsp; R5&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 90MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;182MB/sec&amp;nbsp; 72MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 149MB/sec&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;iscsi&amp;nbsp; P4300G2 V11 (1GbNIC) R5&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;62MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;117MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 62/MB/sec&amp;nbsp; 117MB/sec&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;iscsi VSA2014 w/AO SSD.MLC/SAS.R5&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 102MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;219MB/sec&amp;nbsp; 145/MB/sec&amp;nbsp; 249MB/sec&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;iscsi VSA2014 w/AO Fusion.IO/SAS R5 125MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;190MB/sec&amp;nbsp; 132MB/sec&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 257MB/sec&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;--Edited to correct transposed row.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 22:23:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6404976#M8080</guid>
      <dc:creator>a_o</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-03-09T22:23:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: VSA Performance with SSD tier &amp; SmartCache/CacheCade?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6406364#M8081</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks, be interested in knowing a little more on the disk subsystem being used?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also do you have any IOPS numbers please?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 15:04:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6406364#M8081</guid>
      <dc:creator>Paul Hutchings</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-03-10T15:04:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: VSA Performance with SSD tier &amp; SmartCache/CacheCade?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6410898#M8091</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;WRT to the disk subsystem, it's mostly HP D2700 and D2600 SAS shelves connected to 2 x 2 SAS Switches. Zoning is done as groups of disks on the shelves. For example on one D2600 there are 3 zones :&lt;BR /&gt;1, 5 x 800GB MLC SSD&lt;BR /&gt;2, 10 x 600GB 10KSAS 6Gbps&lt;BR /&gt;3, 10 x 1TB 7.2K SAS 6Gbps.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Additionally, there are 4 SB2200 storage blades with a variety of SSDs and SAS drives.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;On the compute blades that are used for storage, each one has HP P711m BL raid controller and one BL 640GB IO Accelerator.&lt;BR /&gt;The SB2200 blades have a P410i Raid controller.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I try to keep everything HP because of the SmartSSD Wear Gauge support that was recently introduced in ACU.&lt;BR /&gt;IMO, this is arequirement for using SSDs in a production environment.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:14:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6410898#M8091</guid>
      <dc:creator>a_o</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-03-12T22:14:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: VSA Performance with SSD tier &amp; SmartCache/CacheCade?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6413200#M8105</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You cannot force a LUN to SSD. The only option you do have is to enable (that's the default) or disable AO for StoreVirtual volumes.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:29:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6413200#M8105</guid>
      <dc:creator>HPstorageTom</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-03-14T14:29:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: VSA Performance with SSD tier &amp; SmartCache/CacheCade?</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6413630#M8111</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thought that was the case sadly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's stil up there. &amp;nbsp;My biggest concern right now is restripe times - the 50TB VSA licenses are a great idea because we could get the capacity in 2 boxes (with hardware RAID10 for performance) but the restripe time should I lose a box concerns me a &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;lot&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2014 21:09:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/storevirtual-storage/vsa-performance-with-ssd-tier-amp-smartcache-cachecade/m-p/6413630#M8111</guid>
      <dc:creator>Paul Hutchings</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-03-14T21:09:23Z</dc:date>
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