topic Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation in Operating System - HP-UX

NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Ralph Grothe — Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:56:37 GMT

Yesterday I inserted a 100MBit/s NIC into the first free EISA slot of a D370.

Unfortunately I haven't written down the SE No. nor do I know the product No.
The NIC's from the outside visible slot plate has no product No. engraved.

Thus I sequentially installed all sorts of NIC drivers from the Sept. 2002 Core Install/Recovery HP-UX 11.00 CDROM (even though the PCI stuff doesn't seem very sensible)

Thus I currently have these drivers

# swlist -l fileset -a state|grep 100BT
# 100BT-GSC-FMT
100BT-GSC-FMT.100BT-FORMAT configured
# 100BT-GSC-KRN
100BT-GSC-KRN.100BT-KRN configured
# 100BT-GSC-RUN
100BT-GSC-RUN.100BT-INIT configured
100BT-GSC-RUN.100BT-RUN configured
# 100BT-PCI-FMT
100BT-PCI-FMT.100BT-FORMAT configured
# 100BT-PCI-KRN
100BT-PCI-KRN.100BT-KRN64 configured
# 100BT-PCI-RUN
100BT-PCI-RUN.100BT-INIT configured
100BT-PCI-RUN.100BT-RUN configured
LAN100-INIT-COM.LAN100BT-INIT configured
# LAN100BT-PB-KRN
LAN100BT-PB-KRN.HPBT-KRN64 configured
# LAN100BT-PB-RUN
LAN100BT-PB-RUN.HPPB100BT-RUN configured
Networking.SPP100BT-INIT configured
Networking.SPP100BT-KRN configured
Networking.SPP100BT-MIN configured
Networking.SPP100BT64SLIB configured
PHNE_18668.SPP100BT-INIT configured
PHNE_18668.SPP100BT-KRN configured
PHNE_18668.SPP100BT-MIN configured
PHNE_18668.SPP100BT64SLIB configured
PHNE_19094.SPP100BT-INIT configured
PHNE_19094.SPP100BT-KRN configured
PHNE_19094.SPP100BT-MIN configured
PHNE_19094.SPP100BT64SLIB configured

Despite neither ioscan nor lanscan show the device.

model and OS are:
(the NIC that shows up is the previous on-board ppa)

# model
9000/861/D370
# uname -srv
HP-UX B.11.00 A
# getconf KERNEL_BITS
64
# lanscan
Hardware Station Crd Hdw Net-Interface NM MAC HP-DLPI DLPI
Path Address In# State NamePPA ID Type Support Mjr#
8/16/6 0x08000955A203 0 UP lan0 snap0 1 ETHER Yes 119

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Michael Tully — Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:00:33 GMT

Hi Ralph,

Have you got the latest firmware installed?

Regards
Michael
"When I have trouble spelling, it's called fat finger syndrome."

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Bernhard Mueller — Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:02:02 GMT

Hi,

you are running a 64bit OS and inserted an EISA card. EISA cards are NOT supported under 64bit HP-UX.

That is why you cannot see the card. So I guess you cannot use it, if you have a free HSC bus slot you may consider, replacing the card by an HSC bus card (I believe it is J3515 or so)

Regards
Bernhard

P.S. I guess downgrading to 32bit HP-UX is not an option ....

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Michael Tully — Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:02:18 GMT

I also forgot to mention:

Is the card correctly seated?

Was the card used before in a different system that was working that your aware of?

Regards
Michael
"When I have trouble spelling, it's called fat finger syndrome."

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Ralph Grothe — Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:11:34 GMT

Berhard,

good hint regarding 64Bit mode.

Michael,

yes, I indeed unplugged the card from another D370 to be scrapped soon.

It was my mistake not to have booted up this other machine while the card still stuck therein to see what driver the system used to address it.
Maybe I should replug the card again, and do this missed out check.

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Bernhard Mueller — Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:21:13 GMT

under HP-UX 11.0 the 100BT EISA card uses driver btlan0

Regards,
Bernhard

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Bernhard Mueller — Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:24:34 GMT

sorry,

to be precise it should have read:
under HP-UX 11.X (32bit only) the 100BT EISA card uses driver btlan0

Regards,
Bernhard

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

alexandre MARIE — Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:51:12 GMT

I remember something like "eisa_config -a" have a look at eisa_config(1M)

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Ralph Grothe — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:10:20 GMT

Alexandre,

this was a very valuable hint!

Meanwhile I discovered an old volume "Configuring HP-UX for Peripherals" that also includes a chapter "EISA Board Configuration".

Therein (and in the eisa_config manpage) it reads that before a newly added EISA card is supported one has to supply a CFG file for that card which is to be placed in /sbin/lib/eisa, and then run eisa_config on that file.

Having a look at the other CFG files is really intimidating, and I'm sure that one has to have profound HW driver develoment experience should one be daring enough to create such a file from scratch.
Thus my problem now seems to be where to obtain such a file.
In the chapter it say that a CFG file is usually supplied by the HW vendor.
My only chance would be to boot up the to-be-scrapped D-class from where I ripped off the card, and hope that I will discover a valid CFG file there.

On the other hand, should anyone of you know another source for CFG files for EISA LAN cards hints are most welcome!

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Massimo Bianchi — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:17:11 GMT

If this may help,
i attach the contento of my /sbin/../*.CFG files.

Ther source srver is a D370 with 11.00 .
HTH,
Massimo

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Massimo Bianchi — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:18:58 GMT

Oops.
Massimo

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Ralph Grothe — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:27:13 GMT

Massimo,

thanks for the supplied CFG files.

I see there is even one for a LAN adapter

$ grep LAN *CFG
!HWP1850.CFG: ; Hewlett-Packard EISA LAN AdapterCard Version 1.00
!HWP1850.CFG: ; !HWP1850.CFG 4-11-1991 -- For the EISA/LAN Tornado card
!HWP1850.CFG: NAME = "Hewlett-Packard EISA LAN AdapterCard, product number 25567A"
!HWP1850.CFG: FUNCTION = "Hewlett-Packard EISA LAN AdapterCard"

Let's hope that mine is the same product 25567A.

As I wrote, I was silly enough not to look closely enough at the card prior to insertion and to take down its product No.

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

alexandre MARIE — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:09:39 GMT

I got the same files as massimo in a D390 (HPUX 10.20), i think the !HWP1850.CFG would match the adapter you got.

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

Helen French — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:27:43 GMT

EISA cards are not supported in HP-UX 11.0, 64bit version. This is the problem you are facing. Replace it with an equivalent HSC card. Check part details from here:
http://www.hp.com/products1/unixserverconnectivity/adapters/ethernet/specifications/hsc_ethernet_specs.html

Re: NIC by D370 system not detectable after installation

A. Clay Stephenson — Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:19:25 GMT

You are truly wasting your time - NO EISA CARDS OF ANY KIND WILL WORK IN 64-BIT 11.x. In fact, if you are load 64-bit 11.x on a D or R box, you should really just toss the EISA cards.

You really have a very limited number of choices:

1) Load 32-bit HP-UX 11.x on your D-box; you can then install your EISA LAN card.

2) Throw away your EISA LAN card and live with the built-in 10-Base-T in 64-bit land.

3) Purchase an HSC LAN Card and live in 64-bit land.