topic Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help in Operating System - HP-UX

gzip 1.3.3 install Help

Mike Blatsos — Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:11:07 GMT

I am trying to get a new version of gzip on my servers at the porting & archiving certre the choices are 11.0, 11.20 and 11.22, I have 11.11? Should I be downloading the source code and compiling it into 11.11 (which I have never done)?

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:12:58 GMT

11.11 will safely run the 11.00 code.

Enjoy, have FUN! H.Merijn

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

Pete Randall — Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:13:18 GMT

Mike,

The 11.0 version should work for you. You will probably have to change the swinstall options to allow incompatible software.

Pete

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

Steven E. Protter — Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:26:18 GMT

I have yet to run into 11.00 code on the porting archive center that won't work on 11.11

Before I knew itrc existed I wrote a support call to HP asking the same question. they said what Pete and Merijn told you.

SEP

No points for this, just trying to boost your confidence.

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

Jeff Schussele — Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:26:35 GMT

Hi Mike,

As noted, the 11.0 version runs just fine on 11.11
But you should be aware that the gzip ver included in the OS is in /usr/contrib/bin.
Whereas the Porting Center version will install into /usr/local/bin by default.
There are several ways to deal with this:

1) Adjust paths such that /usr/local/bin is searched *before* /usr/contrib/bin so that the system will find the 1.3.3 ver first.

2) Remove base version & install Port ver normally - then create links from /usr/contrib/bin -> /usr/local/bin

3) Port Center version IS relocatable. So redirect the install to /usr/contrib/bin
This is the preferred way to handle this as Ignite MUST find gzip in /usr/contrib/bin to work properly & I wouldn't trust links to be correct in all Ignite scenarios.

On a related side-note.
We submitted a JAG to HP months & months ago & have requested escalation several times as well, because it's way WAY past time for HP to have solved this silly little problem.
gzip 1.3.3 has been available for a VERY long time, yet HP still ships 1.2.4 to this day.
make_net_recovery is essentially useless IF you end up with an archive > 2Gb.
Come on HP - get off your duff & do something about this!
There, I feel better now...

Rgds,
Jeff

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:35:40 GMT

On that note (or better on these notes):

1. The gzip available on https://www.beepz.com/personal/merijn/ or http://www.cmve.net/~merijn/ for 10.20 and 11.00 is newer: 1.3.5 and is a binary only (no swinstall), so you just put it over the existing version and your problem is gone

2. When will HP start supporting CD-ROM (or DVD) ISO images for ignite? Most of my systems don't even have a tape anymore!

Enjoy, have FUN! H.Merijn

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

Mike Blatsos — Mon, 08 Sep 2003 16:42:09 GMT

Thankx all, I just needed to remember to also change the path for gunzip and zcat.

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

Jeff Schussele — Mon, 08 Sep 2003 21:39:46 GMT

Hi Merijn,

Yes, I understand & agree with you that simply laying the binary down wherever you wish is easy & location-controllable.
But our team is responsible for hundreds & hundreds of servers, so we really need to have installs registered in the IPD for version control & ease of checking such.

Having enjoyable fun,
Jeff

P.S. Wonder how long it will take the Porting Center to get the 1.3.5 ver out there? Anything stand out in this ver?

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Tue, 09 Sep 2003 08:11:57 GMT

How big is the need? Mehdi is quite responsive to my pleas, so if the lot out there want it realy bad, it might be up there tomorrow :)

Should I?

Enjoy, have FUN! H.Merijn

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

Jeff Schussele — Tue, 09 Sep 2003 12:02:49 GMT

The need is there - but not huge.
I'd like to see it out there so I can use it as leverage to pressure HP further to update their distributions. Basically the argument would be - "Well HP just HOW many versions do you intend to fall behind?"
So it would be nice if it got out there in the next week or two.

Thanks,
Jeff

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Tue, 09 Sep 2003 12:35:58 GMT

To be clear

1. HP has *NO* influence on what the HP porting center's port and make available
2. HP only has a say in the matter to which system / OS they port
3. I already have ping'ed Mehdi
4. What HP ships with the OS / Application CD is completely decoupled from the HP porting center's activity. Mehdi might expand on this if he likes to join this thread. I've mailed him the link.

That being said, I'm a kind of porting center myself :)

Now if I got 1 point for every 100 Mb downloaded from my site, I'd be Olympian.

Enjoy, have FUN! H.Merijn

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

Mehdi_1 — Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:47:18 GMT

Hi

Mike: As it is already been said by the others, gzip 11.00 should work on 11.11 as well. I theory all the 11.00 package apart from the few that are system specific ( eg. gcc, lsof, gdb,...) should work ok on 11.11. But I can't be sure since I have no 11.11 platfrom to check that.

Procura: Thanks for emailing me. I sorry, I cann't contribute to the forum more than I should do, but I try to check it every few days.

Jeff: gzip-1.3.5 depot is ready to download:

http://hpux.connect.org.uk/hppd/hpux/Gnu/gzip-1.3.5

Also: As far as I know HP ship their machine with the latest "STABLE" version of gzip which is "1.2.4". Neither 1.3.5 nor 1.3.3 are stable version. 1.3.3 is a Beta version and 1.3.5 is the test version. I personally think HP shouldn't ship their products with the software in beta or test status.

HP porting center is not part of the HP company. WE are a company that is partly owened by the University of Liverpool, in the UK. I am trying my best to keep the packages on the Archive uptodate, But I am sure as you may appreciate yourself, keeping up with more than 2000 package is not a easy job.

procura: if I got 1 point for every 10 Mb downloaded from the Archive, I would be more than a Olympian, I think Dan had a job of finding me another title higher than Olympian!!

I think the fourm should give me an honorary title!!! ( I am just joking )

Anyuway enjoy with latest gzip.

Mehdi

Re: gzip 1.3.3 install Help

Jeff Schussele — Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:23:37 GMT

Hi Mehdi,

Good to hear from you & thanks for getting gzip 1.3.5 out on the Porting Center so quickly.

I understand that gzip 1.3.3 is still beta & 1.3.5 is in development, but what about 1.3.1?

It's been on your site for almost 2 years. Is it still considered beta? I searched the gzip.org page, but could find no version history for it. gzip 1.2.4 has been released for over 4 1/2 years. I have a hard time believing that there have been no further stable versions in that time period. And considering 1.2.4 is anything *but* stable when dealing with archives > 2GB, I would consider the term somewhat oxymoronic.

Our problem is that because Ignite uses gzip in the make_net_recovery process, the product is essentially useless when dealing with archives > 2GB. And in our 11i development & test environments today, with the myriad number of 3rd party applications required - far too many to list here - our vg00 VGs almost always grow larger than 2GB. I suspect I am far from alone in this frustration.

And I do realize that you folks are not connected to HP & we Admins out here certainly owe you & your team a debt of gratitude. Keep up the great work - we sure appreciate it.

Best Rgds,
Jeff