topic loopback filesystem, or what? in Operating System - HP-UX

loopback filesystem, or what?

Ralph Grothe — Thu, 02 Nov 2000 11:23:43 GMT

While collecting fstype information for writing a Perl script that should run on different flavours of Unix (i.e. HP-UX, AIX, Solaris, Linux) I stumbled over the fstype lofs in HP-UX's fstab manpage.
Looking for a more explicit explantion I couldn't find a mkfs_lofs manpage.
The only somewhat disturbing hint I found is the WARNINGS paragraph in the mount_lofs manpage, "...should only be used by experienced users...blah blah...can be confusing...blah blah".
Doing occasional backups on CD-R/RW on my Linux box at home using mkisofs and cdrecord, I know you can create an image file before burning, that you can mount as a loopback device as if accessing an already burned CDROM to check that everything has been included.
Is HP-UX's lofs something similar or am I on a totally wrong track?

Re: loopback filesystem, or what?

John Palmer — Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:20:58 GMT

Hi Ralph,

The following is an extract from the 10.20 Release notes (found in /usr/share/doc):-

LOFS allows mounting an existing directory onto another directory.
The effect is similar to that of a symbolic link, except that the
usual mount options are available, and there are no issues with the
meaning of "..". When an application does a stat(2) on a LOFS file,
the values returned are the same as for the file in its original
location, except that the st_fstype field indicates LOFS. In particular,
st_dev and st_ino are the same, so that the conventional test for
whether two pathnames name the same file (device and inumber match)
continues to work.

Some applications that walk file trees use stat's st_dev to detect the
crossing of mount points. This will not work with LOFS because an
LOFS file has the st_dev of its original location. Code that needs
to identify a particular file system (in the sense of a particular
mount) should use f_fsid from statfs(2) or statvfs(2).

Hope this helps,
John

Re: loopback filesystem, or what?

Rainer_1 — Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:24:24 GMT

For lofs see this site:
http://www.docs.hp.com/cgi-bin/fsearch/framedisplay?top=/hpux/onlinedocs/B2355-90672/B2355-90672_top.html&con=/hpux/onlinedocs/B2355-90672/00/00/39-con.html&toc=/hpux/onlinedocs/B2355-90672/00/00/39-toc.html&searchterms=lofs&queryid=20001102-042219
and
http://www.docs.hp.com/cgi-bin/fsearch/framedisplay?top=/hpux/onlinedocs/B2355-90129/B2355-90129_top.html&con=/hpux/onlinedocs/B2355-90129/00/01/194-con.html&toc=/hpux/onlinedocs/B2355-90129/00/01/194-toc.html&searchterms=lofs&queryid=20001102-042219

Re: loopback filesystem, or what?

Ralph Grothe — Thu, 02 Nov 2000 13:42:33 GMT

John,

thank you for the lengthy explanation.
Now I know I will have no need for employing HP-UX's loopback filesystems. ;-)
But at least my conclusion to loopback FS from the acronym lofs was correct, even though my notion and usage of lofs under Linux is slightly deviating.

Rainer,

thank you for providing the link.
Isn't it amazing how much CGI URL encoding line noise the HP webdevelopers can put in a single string? ;-)