topic Re: ll not working in Operating System - HP-UX

ll not working

Amiel Tutolo — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:38:04 GMT

When I am logged in as any user and I am at the / (root level) the ll command including ls -l and other variations returns nothing. If I do an ls -a it works. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: ll not working

Jean-Luc Oudart — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:42:15 GMT

Hi

please post
which ll
type ll

if you enter /usr/bin/ll what is the output like ?

Regards,
Jean-Luc

Re: ll not working

Steven E. Protter — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:42:34 GMT

whence ll

Is it there?

ls -la the put put.

This is a command, not an alias, so if its there it should work.

Next, Check PATH variable, make sure /usr/bin is part of it.

SEP

Re: ll not working

Jeff Schussele — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:44:01 GMT

Hi Amiel,

When you see this problem - run

which ls
and
which ll

It *should* come back
/bin/ls
/bin/ll

If it's different, then there's other ls and ll binaries out there & you need to get /bin into your path *before* their location.

Rgds,
Jeff

Re: ll not working

Amiel Tutolo — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:48:22 GMT

which ll returns /usr/bin/ll
type ll retruns ll is /usr/bin/ll

ls -l the put put returns
the not found
put not found
put not found

/usr/bin is in $PATH

Re: ll not working

Amiel Tutolo — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:49:49 GMT

which ll and which ls return
/usr/bin/ls
/usr/bin/ll

Re: ll not working

Amiel Tutolo — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:50:57 GMT

Just for calrification the command hangs until I kill it when running at the / level.

Re: ll not working

Pete Randall — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:51:08 GMT

I think SEP was referring to a form of miniature golf..

;^)

Pete

Re: ll not working

Sridhar Bhaskarla — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:57:36 GMT

Hi,

I believe you have an NFS filesystems that is hanging. ls will work but not ll as it has to generate a long listing.

YOu will need to get your NFS fixed first. Your bdf may be hanging too. To find out the NFS mounted file systems do cat /etc/mnttab. Check the NFS servers from where you are mounting and fix them if they are not responding.

-Sri

Re: ll not working

Jeroen Peereboom — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:57:57 GMT

Some guesses:

* Try an /usr/bin/ls -l | cat -v.
Maybe there are control characters in ls's output,

* Do you use NIS or something like that? Maybe usernames / groupnames cannot be found?

* No problem on other directory?

JP.

Re: ll not working

Jeroen Peereboom — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:58:55 GMT

Forgot to mention:
Does bdf command work?

JP

Re: ll not working

Patrick Wallek — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:01:19 GMT

You need to verify that your 'ls' executable is OK. ll, l, lsf, lsr and others are hard links to ls. If you do the following:

# cd /usr/bin
# ls -l l lc ll ls lsf lsr lsx

-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/l*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/lc*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/ll*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/ls*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/lsf*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/lsr*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/lsx*

You should get something like the above. Notice the '7' in the link count and the fact that they are all the same size. This should be the case on your machine as well.

This list was taken on an 11.11 machine, so yours may be slightly different depending on your OS release and any patches you may have installed.

If any of the files in the list are different, then I would look at your backups and see what changed.

Also -- are you sure you have permissions to see all of the info when logged in as a user? Are there any NFS mounts involved?

Re: ll not working

Amiel Tutolo — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:02:16 GMT

I am not currently using NFS on this system. The cat on /etc/mnttab does show a /net listing that I do not see on my other systems. The /usr/bin/ls -l | cat -v hangs until I kill it.

Re: ll not working

Jean-Luc Oudart — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:02:28 GMT

Any NFS mounted file systems ?

libautofs.a
SR: 8606221217
DTS: JAGad90351
The "ll" command hangs in the case of an automounted
file system if the server is down.

Regards,
JL

Re: ll not working

Sridhar Bhaskarla — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:04:11 GMT

Them you probably have a corrupted filesystem or a mount point that is not available or hanging. Do you see any error messages in 'dmesg' or /var/adm/syslog/syslog.log file?

-Sri

Re: ll not working

Jean-Luc Oudart — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:05:42 GMT

Could you post ?
/etc/rc.config.d/nfsconf
/etc/auto_master

Regards,
Jean-Luc

Re: ll not working

Sridhar Bhaskarla — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:06:01 GMT

Well -

//
The cat on /etc/mnttab does show a /net listing that I do not see on my other systems. //

This does mean you have an NFS issue. YOu will need to fix your NFS server. What entry do you have corresponding to /net?. Can you ping to that server?.

-Sri

Re: ll not working

Mark Grant — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:11:25 GMT

I agree with Sridhar here,

I have seen this a few times and it has always been a filesystem corruption. "ls" only needs to read a directory whereas "ls -l" needs to look up the filesystem inodes.

I would attempt to unmount the filesystem and do an "fsck" on it.

Also, just to be sure, you could try your "ls -l" in another filesystem or two and see if it works there.

One more thing, your "/net" is probably an automounted NFS filesystem. By default the auto mount it configured with a /net filesystem which NFS mounts other hosts on your network when you attempt to cd to /net/ assuming it is allowed to.

Re: ll not working

Amiel Tutolo — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:15:19 GMT

Thanks for the great responses so far. The /net is what is causing the problems i am usre because I am now try a reboot and it is hanging when trying to mount connect to /net. Is there any easy way out of this? I am going to turn the nfs server off as soon as I can get in because this machine will not need it.

Re: ll not working

Amiel Tutolo — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:19:58 GMT

Can I stop the boot where it is trying to do the following:
NFS server (pid1102@/net) not responding still trying

Then can I edit some file to take care of this?