topic Re: Directory Modification Time in Operating System - HP-UX

Directory Modification Time

Sundar_7 — Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:04:55 GMT

I was trying to figure out how the Directory modification time is handled. So, wanted to see if anyone can help me understand this better

Directory modification time is

a) NOT updated if an exisiting file within that directory is modified

b) updated if a new file is created.

c) updated if an existing file is removed.

d) updated if an existing file is renamed

Given that directory contains nothing more than map of inode to file names, the above mentioned behavior makes sense to me. But was wondering how do you guys interpret this ?

Also what determines a directory size ?

Any useful input will be appreciated with points :-)

-- Sundar.

Re: Directory Modification Time

A. Clay Stephenson — Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:12:10 GMT

Stop thinking of the directory as a directory and think of of as simply a regular file and your observations will make sense. A directory is really metadata - data that describe other data. Nothing in the directory's contents change if a file within a directory is modified because none of those involve a change of the metadata -- any of the other changes you mentioned directly affect the metadata so that the directory has to be rewritten and thus the modification time is changed.

Re: Directory Modification Time

Sundar_7 — Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:22:32 GMT

Thanks Clay. I kind of figured that is the case - What about the directory size ? what determines the size of a directory ?

Re: Directory Modification Time

A. Clay Stephenson — Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:32:31 GMT

Use a text editor to examine /usr/include/sys/dirent.h. A directory is essentially a file that consists of a bunch of struct dirent's plus a little bit of additional header data. Essentially the size of a directory is determined by the number of dirent's. A few things should be noted. First, if a file is unlinked (rm'ed), the dirent is not actually removed but is rather marked available so that the dirent can be used for new files. Thus removing a file does not shrink a directory. If there are no available dirents in a directory and a file needs to be created, the directory is rewritten with the larger size. The other thing to note is that a file might have more than one directory entry --- hard linked files share a common inode but each link has its own directory entry.

Re: Directory Modification Time

Sundar_7 — Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:46:57 GMT

Thanks Clay - As always, you are second to none! - Be right there, I will catch you up in some 10 years :-)

Re: Directory Modification Time

RAC_1 — Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:56:18 GMT

I agree with Sundar.

There is only one A. Clay Stephenson.
In my spare time, I just browse through his postings/replies. Rather his replies.

Anil