topic Re: Scripting Crontab in Operating System - HP-UX

Scripting Crontab

David Land — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:44:33 GMT

I am in the process of creating a simple script to FTP over the cron file from one server to another. However, I am having problems figuring out how to automate crontab through this script.

Do you have any ideas on how to make this work?

Re: Scripting Crontab

Michael Schulte zur Sur — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:20:48 GMT

Hi,

somewhat like
ftp -in << EOF
user u1 p1
cd
dir
get test1
quit
EOF

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Michael

Re: Scripting Crontab

Kent Ostby — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:36:47 GMT

The only way I can thing to do this is a brute force method which has some risk if you happen to have cron jobs set to start up on the target system at that time, and that would be to do a remsh to the target system and have it do:

/sbin/init.d/cron stop
/sbin/init.d/cron start.

Re: Scripting Crontab

Dave Hutton — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:37:28 GMT

One quick point, anything that you envoke from crontab you want to make sure you fully path all your commands. For example /usr/bin/ftp or make sure you set up your environment so it knows where to look for your binaries (PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin).

Re: Scripting Crontab

Dave Hutton — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:39:44 GMT

I think I was on the same page as Michael was. Which after rereading it, is the wrong page.

Re: Scripting Crontab

David Land — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:43:40 GMT

I take it there is no way to stop and start Cron through FTP? I would like to keep away from using rcp or rlogin to perform this.

Re: Scripting Crontab

Mel Burslan — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:55:02 GMT

stopping any process using FTP is not possible under normal circumstances, but a creative way of accomplishing this is to run a cron job like every minute and checking for existence of a file, for example /var/adm/killcron. And upon existence of this file, your script can stop/kill the cron process and delete the file. The file can be uploaded using FTP. I hope this helps.

Re: Scripting Crontab

David Land — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:11:40 GMT

Okay I believe that would work, Mel. My only question now is how do you check for the existance of that file?

Re: Scripting Crontab

A. Clay Stephenson — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:38:57 GMT

You do not want to simply copy the crontab over because the cron daemon itself won't have a clue that you have changed the file. The cron daemon needs a kill -1 to know to reread its configuration files. The smart way to do this is through the use of the crontab command.

I would do send your new cron file into a remsh that invokes crontab on the remote host. Crobtab reads the stdin so this is a good fit. As a bonus, crontab automatically send a kill -1 to the cron daemon.

Re: Scripting Crontab

Mel Burslan — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:32:24 GMT

David,

an example would be :

#!/usr/bin/ksh
if [ -a /var/adm/killcron ]
then
rm /var/adm/killcron
/sbin/init.d/cron stop
sleep 1
/sbin/init.d/cron start # if you want to restart it
fi

put this snippet of code into a script and call this script from cron at pre-designated intervals that you wish.

everytime you upload a file named /var/adm/killcron (change at your wish but make sure it is in a root-only access directory, unless you may have unexplained cron disappearances) using any method, ftp, scp, rcp and what-have-you, your cron will recycle on the next run of this script.

Hope this helps.