topic Re: Web Server selection on hpux in Operating System - HP-UX

Web Server selection on hpux

Shivkumar — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:29:57 GMT

Dear Sirs;

I have been asked to recommend best web server between the iPlanet (SunOne) and HP Apache 2.x.

It would be for big enterprise solutions probably more than 10 million hits per day.

Appreciate any suggestion.

Thanks,
Shiv

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Mel Burslan — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:34:25 GMT

It is a matter of taste more than anything else. Apache runs pretty much anything big or small over the world-wide-web but as it is an opensource product, your support is mainly what you can manage to find on your own unless you have a special support agreement from HP.

sun-one (formerly known as iplanet) is a commercial web server for which you pay thru the nose for licensing but they provide support in case you are in trouble, contactually.

But in my opinion, Apache is mature enough for undertaking a big assignment like you are thinking of. Apache runs websites like slashdot.org where daily hits are in the order of millions I believe.

Take your pick...

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Arunvijai_4 — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:34:38 GMT

HP Apache is the best webserver available today on HP-UX Platform. HP has done paltform specific changes in Apache 2.x and offers support too.

-- Arun

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Joseph Loo — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:51:37 GMT

hi,

SunOne -> have to pay but get support

Apache -> free and widely used, if u know how to troubleshoot and find answers to your problem (if any), (paid) support is not necessary.

both will be able to take care of the 10 million hits per day. personally, i will go for Apache.

regards.

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Yogeeraj_1 — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:58:50 GMT

hi shiv,

I had recently downloaded a report from KeyLabs who claims to be the Number one source for Hardware, Software, e-Commerce and Internet
Testing.

Found at the following site: http://www.keylabs.com/results/sun/SunONEFinalReport_Solaris.pdf

hope this helps!

regards
yogeeraj

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Ivajlo Yanakiev — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:03:48 GMT

Yes Apache is leader.
I want ot add only that if you going to make
enterprise solutions you need not only software (apache) but
hardware -cluster and clear idea of networking - load balance.
If you have 10 million hits per day probably you do not need downtime !

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Steven E. Protter — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:02:17 GMT

HP's version of apache is very solid and can be integrated with Serviceguard for high availability.

You can make it do almost anything you need.

SEP

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Torsten. — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:19:55 GMT

The apache web server should be your first choice.

more info:

http://h20293.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=HPUXWSSUITE

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Raj D. — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:40:31 GMT

Hi Shiv,

The HP-UX Web Server Suite is a free product that can be downloaded for HP-UX platform and includes key software products necessary to deploy, manage, and implement mission critical web servers. The suite is comprised of:
HP-UX Apache-based Web Server
HP-UX Tomcat-based Servlet Engine
HP-UX XML Web Server Tools
HP-UX Webmin-based Admin .

Yoou may have a look at the link:
http://www.hp.com/products1/unix/webservers/apache/faqs/

Cheers,
Raj.

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Alessandro Pilati — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:41:14 GMT

Shiv,
if can be useful for you, this is a link of migrating from iPlanet to Apache where there are informations for both products:

http://www.hp.com/products1/unix/webservers/apache/techtips/Migration-iPlanet-to-HPApache.pdf

Here an Iplanet benchmark:
http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/iws-v1/iwsee4-sh242-p2.html

Here read opinions about iPlanet, Apache and IIS:

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-1035_11-1034514.html#

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-1035-1034514-2.html

I ever worked with Apache (with an average of 2 million hits per day) and I think your need may match the Apache services, considering it manage faultlessy millions hits per day.
I don't know very well Iplanet, but I know Apache enough to give you the advice to use it.

Hope this helps,
Alex

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Florian Heigl (new acc) — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:57:15 GMT

You should consider running the nsa_http extension provided by hp in front of the web server, no matter Apache oder SunOne.
It's a kernel module for caching of static pages which works very well (for me at least).

Honestly, for this amount of hits, I'd go with Zeus instead of both apache and sunone, but of one of these preconfigured and ready as a fall back. as it implies, it also install and configure apache with sunone as a fallback, this lets You sleep better in case of unpatched security problems.

(10 Million hits a day... I'm not sure, I'd put this on a regular webserver / cluster. I've half-way built a system for this load, consisting of 7-21 vmebus ppc blades. definitely have a look at the SA8220 and SA9000 traffic directors by HP.)

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Geoff Wild — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:00:25 GMT

Like Raj - I too prefer the HP-UX Web Server suite - HP will give you some support - if you have a contract - as it is a product they provide.

http://h20293.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=HPUXWSATW212

Rgds...Geoff

Re: Web Server selection on hpux

Florian Heigl (new acc) — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:50:14 GMT

A small addon for the 20million-hit department... "memcached" - used i.e. by wikimedia.org is basically the same thing like nsa_httpd, but can cross server boundaries.

Is especially interesting in case You're looking at a multi Vendor/OS scenario.

The URL is:
http://www.danga.com/memcached/