topic Re: degragmentation on disk or ram in Operating System - HP-UX

degragmentation on disk or ram

Shivkumar — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 02:30:01 GMT

dear sirs,

is defragmentation happens on hpux disks or ram ?

thanks,
shiv

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

Devender Khatana — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 02:38:00 GMT

Hi,

Yes you can defragment files on a Vxfs file system. To achive this you should use

#fsadm -F vxfs -D /home (For directory fragmentation report)

#fsadm -F vxfs -d -D -s /home (Reorganization)

man fsadm_vxfs for details.

I do not think it is possible for RAM.

HTH,
Devender

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

Arunvijai_4 — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 02:39:08 GMT

Hi Shiv,

Yes, It happens on HP-UX if you installed OnlineJFS. Check man page of "fsadm" for more information.

-Arun

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

Yogeeraj_1 — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:04:08 GMT

hi,

defragmenation on RAM is not really possible.

Defragmentation on disks can happen. Most of the time you will have to manage your disk space at your application level efficiently (e.g. LMT in oracle).

kind regards
yogeeraj

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

Arunvijai_4 — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 05:23:25 GMT

Hi Shiv,

Deframentation of RAM is not rellay needed in HP-UX since it is based on Unix. Where as windows third party tools are available to do so.

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

Arunvijai_4 — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 05:33:39 GMT

Hi Shiv,

Some threads about Deframentation of HP-UX disks.

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=140574
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=691864
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=78706

-Arun

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

Geoff Wild — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:53:01 GMT

I run a script from cron once a week:

#defrag filesystems
0 22 * * 4 /usr/local/bin/fsadm.defrag >/dev/null 2>&1

# cat /usr/local/bin/fsadm.defrag

#!/bin/sh
# defrag all mounted file systems
LOG=/tmp/fsadm.defrag.log
if [ -f $LOG ]
then
mv $LOG $LOG.old
fi
cat /dev/null > $LOG

for i in `mount -l | grep -v stand |awk '{print $1}'`
do
echo "defraging " $i >> $LOG
fsadm -F vxfs -d -D -e -E $i >> $LOG
done

Rgds...Geoff

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

Shivkumar — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:06:16 GMT

Is there a way to decide whether a file system needs defragmentation ?

regards,
shiv

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

John Payne_2 — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:21:26 GMT

Shiv,

I run a script once a month that checks for it, and generates the report, but then does not defrag. (We only have OnlineJFS for our DB machines...)

#!/bin/ksh
# Filesystem fragmentation checker
# written by jjp 22 May 2003
# To defrag a fragmented filesystem, do a 'fsadm -D -d -E -e /filesystem'
# This will run a report on the fragmentation before and after the run
rm /home/ucs/jjp/fragmentreport
touch /home/ucs/jjp/fragmentreport
for i in `bdf -l |grep -v Filesystem |awk '{print $6}'`
do
if [ $i != "/stand" ]; then
uname -n
print $i
fsadm -F vxfs -D -E $i
fi
done

The report lets you know what kind of fragmentation you have. (You have to extrapolate from the report.) I run the script each month, then have one of my student employees pore over the reports to see what's starting to become fragmented. I have a little paper I can dig up for you that explains what to look for if you can't figure it out ffrom the man page. (man fsadm)

Hope it helps

John

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

Zigor Buruaga — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:21:58 GMT

Hi,

Maybe this link can help, see the reply from Mr. Ferguson:

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=102143&admit=-682735245+1138472183916+28353475

Regards,
Zigor

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

Mahesh Kumar Malik — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:38:05 GMT

Hi Shiv

Following link may be of help

http://docs.hp.com/en/5187-1375/ch05s06.html

Regards

Mahesh

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

Steven E. Protter — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:51:27 GMT

Shalom Shiv,

Online JFS fsadm defragmenting provides a report that can give you an idea as to whether defragmentation was really necessary, be it after the fact.

I would suggest you see if the utility has a preview mode as many utilities do.

It's important that once its running it be left to complete its task.

Here are the guts to the script I ran in the US:

while read -r aa bb cc dd ee
do
FILESYSTEM=$bb
echo "fs is $bb $cc"
if [ "$cc" = "vxfs" ]
then
/usr/sbin/fsadm -F vxfs -D -d -E -e -s $FILESYSTEM
fi

done < /etc/fstab

# As you see it reads /etc/fstab and only touches those filesystems with vxfs on them.

SEP

Re: degragmentation on disk or ram

A. Clay Stephenson — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:53:09 GMT

While one can certainly defragment a vxfs filesystem, my experience has been --- except in rare circumstances --- that it is difficult to achieve measurable, much less significant, results. Bear in mind that vxfs filesystems are extent-based and try to allocate large chunks and UNIX filesystems are geared towards creating many, many files in a short period of time.