topic Re: login problem in Operating System - HP-UX

login problem

Fadia Almarei — Tue, 09 May 2006 11:07:46 GMT

Dear All

when i login to HP-UX 11.11 system as a user it give me the foolwing error
"the Desktop messaging system could not be started"
but if I login by root user or another I do not face this error, the user that have the problem is the application user and it's home directory is not under the /home so it does not have .profile file,I check the /etc/hosts file and all the things that may be related to this problem but nothing is wrong ,so where the problem will be?

Re: login problem

Jeff Schussele — Tue, 09 May 2006 11:17:13 GMT

Hi Fadia,

Sounds to me like the user is trying to start a CDE session. To do this the user *must* have a .dt directory under their home dir.

Rgds,
Jeff

Re: login problem

JASH_2 — Tue, 09 May 2006 11:19:53 GMT

Fadia,

Sounds like it is trying to start a desk top messaging system, which is not supported within HPUX. It may well be that the application that this user controls wants to start talk or some such thing, but HPUX doesn't like it.
Go to the "home" directory of the application user and see what it is trying to start. Even if it has a home directory that is not under /home, it should still have some kind of profile under the application. Check in /etc/passwd to see where the home directory is for this user, then check to see what is there (.profile,.login etc)

Regards,

JASH

Re: login problem

Fadia Almarei — Tue, 09 May 2006 11:20:09 GMT

ok it has this directory.

Re: login problem

Fadia Almarei — Tue, 09 May 2006 11:27:29 GMT

first this user was work before I do a restart to the system, and the application does not run automaticly after the logging, i do restart before this and nothing apears wrong, but this time it fails

Re: login problem

JASH_2 — Tue, 09 May 2006 11:31:11 GMT

Fadia,

What changes did you make before the restart? Did you make changes to the application? Did you make changes in the startup scripts?

Regards,

JASH

Re: login problem

Fadia Almarei — Tue, 09 May 2006 11:33:08 GMT

I did nothing

Re: login problem

JASH_2 — Tue, 09 May 2006 11:38:23 GMT

Then why did you restart?

Re: login problem

Fadia Almarei — Tue, 09 May 2006 11:40:27 GMT

I have a problem is starting sam , this happened before with me and after the restrat every thing goes ok and thers wa no problem in this user, I need to solve the problem.

Re: login problem

JASH_2 — Tue, 09 May 2006 11:42:50 GMT

Fadia,

Have you checked the permissions in the users home directory, SAM can sometimes mess with them. Check ownership and permissions on the users home directory.

Re: login problem

AwadheshPandey — Tue, 09 May 2006 11:53:40 GMT

Hello Fadia,

check with users .dt/errorlog, startlog and session logs.

move .dtprofile to .dtprofile.old and try.
post the errorlogs if problem is not solved by moving .dtprofile.

Cheers,

Awadhesh

Re: login problem

Fadia Almarei — Tue, 09 May 2006 12:05:47 GMT

it does not work ,and the errorlog file in the attachment

Re: login problem

JASH_2 — Wed, 10 May 2006 07:48:33 GMT

Fadia,

Looking at your error, it seems there is now a problem with initialising tooltalk. I know nothing about this product, as such, but I typed in tooltalk into the above forums search and it produced a list of links that may help you more than I can, in this instance.

I hope this is the case, good luck,

JASH

Re: login problem

JASH_2 — Wed, 10 May 2006 07:55:38 GMT

Fadia,

This link is the same as your problem:-

http://www5.itrc.hp.com/service/james/dispDoc.do?docURL=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.hp.com%2Fredirect.html%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%2F%2Fforums1.itrc.hp.com%2Fservice%2Fforums%2Fbizsupport%2Fquestionanswer.do%253FthreadId%253D576770%26qt%3D%252Btooltalk%26hit%3D6&aid=SEARCH_FORUMS&pil=6&serStr=tooltalk&pir=6

Hope this helps.
No points for these follow ups, I am just pointing you to others knowledge.

JASH

Re: login problem

AwadheshPandey — Wed, 10 May 2006 08:07:43 GMT

You can check and match user's .Xauthrity .TTauthrity etc files in user's home dir, also match the permissions, I am not aware of ttotalk, but the problem for particular use shows that one of these files are currupted.

Check this link for tooltalk, it may be some configuration problem for this
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/computer.help/policy/DIGITAL_unix/ToolTalkUsersGuide/tt_ug_15.html

All the best,

Awadhesh

Re: login problem

Fadia Almarei — Wed, 10 May 2006 08:33:37 GMT

thnaks for all the problem solved , the .TTauthrity file was corrupted and the permission for it wa rong , so I get another coppy of the file and correct the permissions.