topic Re: Remote telnet administration suggestions needed for PA-RISC 11.23 in Operating System - HP-UX

Remote telnet administration suggestions needed for PA-RISC 11.23

TheJuiceman — Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:09:33 GMT

We have recently upgraded to 11.23 on a PA-RISC system. Most of our users use a basic telnet session to access the system (using term types vt100 and vt320-k). When we were on 11.11, we were using software called DoubleVision by Tridia for remote administration of these sessions. We have recently found out that they do not have a version that supports 11.23 on PA-RISC. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as a replacement for this software? Thank you for your help.

Re: Remote telnet administration suggestions needed for PA-RISC 11.23

RAC_1 — Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:20:00 GMT

Lots of free options available. I recommand putty. Just search for putty on google.

Re: Remote telnet administration suggestions needed for PA-RISC 11.23

Mridul Shrivastava — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:18:09 GMT

You could use reflection x as well, search in google, you can easily locate the downloadalbes.

Re: Remote telnet administration suggestions needed for PA-RISC 11.23

sudhapage — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 05:32:28 GMT

Yes

U can download putty from the follwing path.

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html

Regards,
Sudhakaran.K

Re: Remote telnet administration suggestions needed for PA-RISC 11.23

Pupil_1 — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 05:50:45 GMT

Another one which you can consider is Hummingbird Exceed.

Re: Remote telnet administration suggestions needed for PA-RISC 11.23

Jaime Bolanos Rojas. — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 06:17:49 GMT

Juiceman,

I would recommend you to go with Reflextion for text mode and Reflextion X for graphical mode, really good interface.

Regards,

Jaime.

Re: Remote telnet administration suggestions needed for PA-RISC 11.23

spex — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 06:44:08 GMT

Hi,

I don't think he's looking for terminal emulator software. Rather he's looking for a replacement for DoubleVision, which allows an admin to view/control remote sessions, among other things.

If this is the case, you will be interested in GNU Screen:
http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/

And here's some information on DoubleVision:
http://www.tridia.com/products/dv.html

PCS

Re: Remote telnet administration suggestions needed for PA-RISC 11.23

Bill Hassell — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:29:09 GMT

DoubleVision appears to be a somewhat automated version of telnet, so I would definitely recommend AGAINST using Xwindows tools like Reflection/X and Hummingbird. Xwindows is a graphics protocol and as such is very unsuitable for terminal work -- indeed, Xwindows actually 'steals' the terminal emulator (xterm, dterm, hpterm) from your HP-UX box, and if you go for the CDE environment, it overlays your local PC's desktop with one from HP-UX. And in all cases, Xwindows protocol is extremely inefficient with millions of small, two-way packets, making it unsuitable for WAN and modem usage. And most firewalls block Xwindows due to severe security problems.

WRQ's Reflection for HP is by far the best terminal emulator with very powerful yet simple scripting (macros) language. You may have already seen this using dumb terminal emulations like vt100 and vt320 that HP tools like SAM, swinstall and Glance are somewhat painful to navigate. That's because they work best with a smart terminal such as the 700/9x products or a good HP terminal emulator such as Reflection for HP. As an alternative, QCterm (free from AICS Research) has all the navigation features but without a macro language.

There are other emulators such as PuTTY which emulates the features of xterm, but xterm is also a fairly dumb terminal.

Re: Remote telnet administration suggestions needed for PA-RISC 11.23

TheJuiceman — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:21:02 GMT

Spex is correct. I'm not looking for an emulator, rather I am looking for an administration tool to be able to control/access simple telnet sessions (nothing GUI). Thanks again for everyone's help!!!