topic Re: Kernel Paramater semmns value in Operating System - HP-UX

Kernel Paramater semmns value

John Love_3 — Thu, 02 Aug 2001 21:36:46 GMT

My current value is 2049, but our Oracle developers ask about increasing the "semaphores". I'm wondering what are good values to increase to, and if I should do as they ask.
What are the drawbacks?

Re: Kernel Paramater semmns value

Michael Tully — Thu, 02 Aug 2001 21:45:13 GMT

Hi John,

The value you have in realistic terms is
quite small. We use Informix at our site
and the parameters we use are far greater.

The down side to changing any kernel
parameter on HP-UX 10.20 and 11 is that the
system needs to be rebooted. You will most likely see the kernel be a larger side, but probably not too much.

Here is a list of the values we use in regards
to semaphores.

semmap 15002
semmni 8192
semmns 16384
semmnu 4096
semume 128
semvmx 65535

To reboot the system use this procedure if you
wish to do this at the command line.

# cd /stand/build
# /usr/lbin/sysadm/system_prep -s system
# vi system (make your changes)
save file

# /usr/sbin/mk_kernel -s system
# /usr/sbin/kmupdate

Take note of the existing kernel name
# cd /

Reboot or shutdown

HTH
-Michael

Re: Kernel Paramater semmns value

Andreas D. Skjervold — Fri, 03 Aug 2001 06:49:34 GMT

Hi
This is what you want to set when running Oracle:

SHMMAX = Set to the size of physical memory, thus each instance will have only one memory segment.
SHMSEG = 1 (need only 1 segment per instance)
SHMMNI = Your number of database instances

SEMMNS = Set to the number of user processes (the sum of init.ora parameter PROCESSES for all your databases) * 2 (or more)
SEMMNI = Number of instances

Andreas

Re: Kernel Paramater semmns value

Andreas D. Skjervold — Fri, 03 Aug 2001 06:55:50 GMT

Forgot:

The first database to attempt starting after you have exhausted you SEMMNS parameter will not start, due to the lack of semaphores.

You could set the init.ora parameter PROCESSES to a lower value if this is development, but in production, you'll need this bigger and subsequently SEMMNS.

As I understand Semaphores do not take much system resources so I do not think you have to worry about this.

so long

Andreas

Re: Kernel Paramater semmns value

Magdi KAMAL — Fri, 03 Aug 2001 08:51:44 GMT

Hi John,

Semaphore is a synchronizing method against concurrent process looking for resources.

if your devloppers are asking for alot of sems, this depends on what they are doing with ( is it justified to have alot or not ! it's really application designer who can respond to this question).

Semaphores, from unix kernel point of view, are C structures. So, the much semaphores you configure your kernel, the more space you will reserve by the kernel to allow access to such semaphores.

So, there is no problem increasing the max amount of semaphores.

You can use sam
->Kernel Configuration
->Configurable Parameters
-> Double click on the semmns entry and give the new value.
-> Save and reboot.

Magdi

You need to reboot the system after that.

Magdi

Re: Kernel Paramater semmns value

Magdi KAMAL — Fri, 03 Aug 2001 08:51:52 GMT