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    <title>topic Re: MSA-1000 unused space reallocation in Operating System - HP-UX</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363737#M346455</link>
    <description>&amp;gt; how to use this available space for other purpose? &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The space listed as "Free PE" is not used by anything at this moment, but it is already tied to the VG. In a cluster, this is important because in a failover operation, the entire VG moves as a whole. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You can use the "Free PE" in each VG by either:&lt;BR /&gt;- using the "lvcreate" command (or maybe a similar function in SMHP) to create new LVs to that VG and then initializing them as appropriate (e.g. create a filesystem on the new LV, or set it up as a raw data LV for a database), or &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;- using the "lvextend" command to enlarge an existing LV in the same VG. If the enlarged LV contains a filesystem and you have OnlineJFS installed, you can use the "fsadm" command to extend the filesystem without unmounting it; if you don't have OnlineJFS, you must unmount the filesystem and use the "resizefs" command. If the enlarged LV contains raw storage for a database, read the administration manual of that database to find out how to make it use the new space. (Usually it's easier to set up new raw data LVs for a database than to extend old raw data LVs.)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Creating new LVs in a VG that is used by the cluster requires cluster administration actions: see the administration manual of your cluster. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;In a ServiceGuard cluster, you create the new LV as usual on the node that has the VG active, then create a new map file for the VG (using the -p option of the vgexport command) and re-import the VG on all the other nodes.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; How can I check that, either the total space are raw space which is totally unused or the unused space is the collective raw space of used PV's?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Uhh... I'm not sure I understand the question.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;"Total PE" for a VG is the sum of the sizes of PVs attached to that VG. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Total PE = Free PE + Allocated PE, this is always true (unless your VG is corrupted and then you would have other big problems too).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;When a PV is attached to a VG, no other VG in the same system can use any part of it. You cannot split a PV so that a part of it would be used in one VG and the rest in another: the LVM simply does not have a way to do that. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;As you're using MSA-1000, your PVs are actually logical units (LUNs) created by the MSA, and they may or may not match exactly to actual physical disks: you must examine the configuration of the MSA-1000 to know.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Apparently there is no Array Configuration Utility for HP-UX, so you must access the MSA-1000 command line interface by using a serial cable plugged into the front panel of the MSA-1000. See this document for more information:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01183955/c01183955.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01183955/c01183955.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;MK</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:03:07 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Matti_Kurkela</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-02-22T13:03:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>MSA-1000 unused space reallocation</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363735#M346453</link>
      <description>Hi All,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;My MSA-1000 is in a cluster environment. Bt when I saw its properties by SMHP, I found abot 1 TB of maximum 2 TB is unused (see atached). Can anyone suggest me how to use this available space for other purpose? How can I check that, either the total space are raw space which is totally unused or the unused space is the  collective raw space of used PV's?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Rgds-Kranti</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:45:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363735#M346453</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kranti Mahmud</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-02-22T10:45:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: MSA-1000 unused space reallocation</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363736#M346454</link>
      <description>Shalom,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm not sure I agree with your analysis.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;There is unallocated space in vg01 554 GB.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;That can be allocated with lvcreate or lvextend of an existing logical volume.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;vg02 has  around 450 GB free PE's available for allocation by the same methods.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;vg03 has 1 TB allocated to it and 187 GB free for allocation.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Here is my take:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;vgo1 4 TB allocated to logical volumes 550 or so GB available for allocation within the volume group.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;vg04 is inactive and may have some space tied to it.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I don't see 2 TB unused space, maybe I misread the report.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;SEP&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:43:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363736#M346454</guid>
      <dc:creator>Steven E. Protter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-02-22T12:43:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: MSA-1000 unused space reallocation</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363737#M346455</link>
      <description>&amp;gt; how to use this available space for other purpose? &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The space listed as "Free PE" is not used by anything at this moment, but it is already tied to the VG. In a cluster, this is important because in a failover operation, the entire VG moves as a whole. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You can use the "Free PE" in each VG by either:&lt;BR /&gt;- using the "lvcreate" command (or maybe a similar function in SMHP) to create new LVs to that VG and then initializing them as appropriate (e.g. create a filesystem on the new LV, or set it up as a raw data LV for a database), or &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;- using the "lvextend" command to enlarge an existing LV in the same VG. If the enlarged LV contains a filesystem and you have OnlineJFS installed, you can use the "fsadm" command to extend the filesystem without unmounting it; if you don't have OnlineJFS, you must unmount the filesystem and use the "resizefs" command. If the enlarged LV contains raw storage for a database, read the administration manual of that database to find out how to make it use the new space. (Usually it's easier to set up new raw data LVs for a database than to extend old raw data LVs.)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Creating new LVs in a VG that is used by the cluster requires cluster administration actions: see the administration manual of your cluster. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;In a ServiceGuard cluster, you create the new LV as usual on the node that has the VG active, then create a new map file for the VG (using the -p option of the vgexport command) and re-import the VG on all the other nodes.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; How can I check that, either the total space are raw space which is totally unused or the unused space is the collective raw space of used PV's?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Uhh... I'm not sure I understand the question.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;"Total PE" for a VG is the sum of the sizes of PVs attached to that VG. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Total PE = Free PE + Allocated PE, this is always true (unless your VG is corrupted and then you would have other big problems too).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;When a PV is attached to a VG, no other VG in the same system can use any part of it. You cannot split a PV so that a part of it would be used in one VG and the rest in another: the LVM simply does not have a way to do that. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;As you're using MSA-1000, your PVs are actually logical units (LUNs) created by the MSA, and they may or may not match exactly to actual physical disks: you must examine the configuration of the MSA-1000 to know.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Apparently there is no Array Configuration Utility for HP-UX, so you must access the MSA-1000 command line interface by using a serial cable plugged into the front panel of the MSA-1000. See this document for more information:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01183955/c01183955.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01183955/c01183955.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;MK</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:03:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363737#M346455</guid>
      <dc:creator>Matti_Kurkela</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-02-22T13:03:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: MSA-1000 unused space reallocation</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363738#M346456</link>
      <description>Hi Guys,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Can any1 suggest me the following by checking the attached file:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;1. How to calculate the available free space? &lt;BR /&gt;2. How to use the free space of the MSA1000?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Rgds-Kranti</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:43:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363738#M346456</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kranti Mahmud</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-03-04T04:43:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: MSA-1000 unused space reallocation</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363739#M346457</link>
      <description>Hi Kranti,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Have U access CLI this MSA? If U can then send me below command:-&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;CLI&amp;gt; show tech_support&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;//BR&lt;BR /&gt;Yaqub&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:21:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363739#M346457</guid>
      <dc:creator>YAQUB_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-03-04T05:21:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: MSA-1000 unused space reallocation</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363740#M346458</link>
      <description>Hi There,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Attached is the info of MSA 1000 collected from CLi console. Please advice me how to use the unallocated spaces?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Rgds-Kranti</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:17:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/msa-1000-unused-space-reallocation/m-p/4363740#M346458</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kranti Mahmud</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-03-12T06:17:53Z</dc:date>
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