topic How to start in Operating System - HP-UX

How to start

rustam_2 — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:09:57 GMT

Hi All.
I'm a newbie in HP-UX. In few months we'll get new HP servers, where have been installed HP-UX 11i v3. I'm a windows servers admin, that's why never used *nix's OS. I wanna have some experience before we’ll get our new HP servers. is it available to download this version of HP-UX, install my PC (by using Virtual OS) and learn. are there any e-books for beginners?

P.S. on those HP servers, i'm gonna install and use database-oracle 10g r2.

Re: How to start

Stephan. — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:25:46 GMT

Hi,
without any *nix experience you will have a lot to learn. If you have a lot of command line know how in windows this could help a little bit.

>>is it available to download this version of HP-UX, install my PC (by using Virtual OS)
You can install hp-ux only on hp 9000 Hardware, which means PA-RISC or Itanium, as far as i know there is no wirtulization software which emulates this.

Good books (my personal favor's, just google for the Title):
- Unix in a Nutshell
- Unix Power Tools
- Learning Perl
- HP Professional Series (this are several books as training for the certification)

hth

Re: How to start

Michal Kapalka (mikap) — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:01:14 GMT

hi,

the HP-UX could be installed only on PA-RiSC or Itanium CPU.

very good documentation is on

docs.hp.com

or read this book :

Prentice Hall HP-UX CSE Official Study Guide and Desk Reference

is older but i think the one from best, or

Software Recovery Book, on this forum you will find lot of links to his book.

mikap

Re: How to start

Ganesan R — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:01:38 GMT

Hi,

First of all, HP-UX will not run on x86 hardware. You need either PA-RISC or Itanium servers from HP to install and HP_UX is not available to download. You have to buy from HP.

You can learn HP-UX from here.

http://docs.hp.com/en/oshpux11iv3.html#System%20Administration

Re: How to start

rustam_2 — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:22:38 GMT

thanks a lot for all of you.
I got, and download some e-books. I will read them. I think in few weeks will come back with new question for making some details more clear.

Re: How to start

rustam_2 — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:44:54 GMT

I've come back.
This week i'm gonna install Oracle 10g Enterprise Edition on HP-UX 11i. I think before installing Database, should i install all patches for OS?

P.S. I got mail - 'September 2009 HP-UX Software Updates'. + in that mail i have Support Account and Service Agreement ID. Should i register my support account or this account is enough.

Re: How to start

Md. Farhan A Azam — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:31:40 GMT

Hi,

First, You have not assigned any points to the replies...So plz go ahedafd and assign the pints who has given you the information/resolution.

To assign the point....
http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1088447

And would like to suggest you to open new thread for any new query...

Yes..you can install the patches, but it is better to check/verify patch compatibilty from DB/Apps guys...as Apps guys are having lots of problem with new patches as i've seen.

If you have SAID, it means you can log a case with HP for any type of problem.

thnx...farhan

Re: How to start

Hakki Aydin Ucar — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:11:56 GMT

As far as I got it correctly, you need a virtualization to acces from your PC to HP-UX box OR virtual HP-UX environment.

With this in mind ,question must be which virtualization tool supports HP-UX ? Since HP-UX has totaly different structure in CPU hardware and environment , most virtualized OS virtualaziton box cannot be used for HP-UX boxes.
But HP has own solutions like this:

http://h20338.www2.hp.com/hpux11i/cache/591336-0-0-0-121.html

Re: How to start

rustam_2 — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:59:13 GMT

Thanks Farhan A Azam,Hakki Aydin.
Farhan, i got what you meant. For now i will not install any patches, coz i have to learn many things in this OS.
Haki Aydin, i dont know why i should install Virtualiz?
as i said, i read "HP-UX 11i system administration handbook and toolkit", and there i found that i can work with SAM or GNOME. Is it true? Can i? i'm still Windows Administrator, that's why a bit difficult to turn *nix system. Could you help?

Re: How to start

Md. Farhan A Azam — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:42:24 GMT

Hi Rustam,

Yes in HP-UX, you can go with command mode as well as SAM.

To Start SAM...

#sam
It will ask to press "Enter", that time hit the the "Enter". SAM is open you will get SAM menu ,now can do what you want.

Please assign the points.

thnx...farhan

Re: How to start

rustam_2 — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:42:28 GMT

For instance: I connected via Putty, and authenticated. I see MP Main Menu, there works just CM... i just can check network settings (ls) , other commands doesn't work. Maybe environment is configured???

Re: How to start

Roland van Lochem — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:01:58 GMT

Hi Rustam,

you're now connected to the GSP or Lan Console. You are not logged into the O.S.

For logging into the O.S. type "Ma" for main and then "Co". But then of course you need an installed O.S.

Regards,
Roland

Re: How to start

Hakki Aydin Ucar — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:35:36 GMT

Hi Rustam,

You mentioned install my PC (by using Virtual OS) ; this is why I answered need a virtualization software but unfortunatelly they do not support HP-UX environment.

I understand your problems, because you are beginners to Unix and in my opinion Unix is not easy and simple operating system hard to learn needs serious experience to use it efficiently. But it is vonderful, trust me.

Recommend you to start to read System Administration books from doc.hp.ux AND bookstores.

Re: How to start

Md. Farhan A Azam — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:59:32 GMT

Hi Rustam,

First would like to tell you that MP and OS is different. OS command will not work in MP.
MP is seperate from OS and used for hardware dignostic and System Administrative job only, Apps and DB can't communicate with MP.

So if you want to learn HP-UX, i'll suggest to login into OS throush telnet/ssh, what ever you have. Then all the OS command will work proper. OR you can also connect to OS through MP from Main Menu ==>co

Yes MP has its own value..its required when you want to boot your server with secondary/mirrored disk. it was an example only, there is lots of job which needs to be done through MP.

thnx...farhan

Re: How to start

Michal Kapalka (mikap) — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:05:02 GMT

hi,

if you are using MP/GSP you should go to command mode ==> cm and them use HE to show all commands to go back in to the mneu you could use CTRL b switch or in Command mode just "ma" ==> go to main menu.

mikap

Re: How to start

rustam_2 — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:17:47 GMT

Thanks a lot for all of you. Yeah, i got that i wasnt in O.S.
Now i'm gonna start all of them.

Re: How to start

rustam_2 — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:25:44 GMT

I've wanted to create new thread,but decided i shouldn't do this.
My new question is about EVA. As i found out before i will start my O.S. i had to start EVA,first disk arrays then storage controllers and then my servers where i'm gonna install oracle.
when i came to my server room and planed to start disk array, i saw that all disk indicators flash green, but one of them has green and orange colors. is it okay, or that disk has problems?
should i turn on storage controller and db server(where OS is HP) or must fix that disk and then turn on...?

Re: How to start

Michal Kapalka (mikap) — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:30:07 GMT

hi,

most advanced storages, have redudant components ( and should have a spare disks ) so you can start the storage.

mikap

Re: How to start

rustam_2 — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:46:31 GMT

Thanks. i turned on, and now disk arrays,controllers and servers work.
I visited this site before and now i'm here http://docs.hp.com/en/oshpux11iv3.html#System%20Administration
i'm confused how to read all of these documentation for starting moreover English is not my native language.
I want to know basic thing for start such as: how to shutdown,startup correctly and check state of OS, logs and etc. Which documents is ok for my situation?

Re: How to start

Suraj K Sankari — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:18:19 GMT

Hi,
>> want to know basic thing for start such as: how to shutdown,startup correctly and check state of OS, logs and etc. Which documents is ok for my situation?

Download the PDF version of this link if you have knowledge of Linux or other flavor of UNIX you can compare with hp UNIX.

http://unixguide.net

download this pdf.
http://unixguide.net/unixguide.pdf

Suraj