topic Re: HP-UX 11i IA64 install on IBM x380 IA64 in Operating System - HP-UX

HP-UX 11i IA64 install on IBM x380 IA64

bhupi70 — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:31:34 GMT

Hi

Is it possible to install HP-UX 11i IA64 on an IBM IA64 hardware. The hardware is IBM x380 IA64 Server.

Re: HP-UX 11i IA64 install on IBM x380 IA64

Steven E. Protter — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:41:16 GMT

Shalom,

I would judge this install as impossible.

HP-UX is designed to run only on HP branded hardware.

Though theoretically possible, such an installation would be unstable at best, dangerous at worst.

SEP

Re: HP-UX 11i IA64 install on IBM x380 IA64

Duncan Edmonstone — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:44:14 GMT

nope, no way, not possible...

HP-UX didn't even run on the Compaq branded IA64 systems that were around a few years ago. It runs on HP Integrity servers only.

The best thing to do with that system is run Linux/IA64 on it - I'd probably suggest the Novell SLES distribution as most appropriate given recent announcments...

HTH

Duncan

Re: HP-UX 11i IA64 install on IBM x380 IA64

rick jones — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:35:17 GMT

From what I can find online, the IBM x380 was a Merced-based system - that is to say the first generation Intel Itanium processor. Based solely on the images I can find online, it was probably the same Intel "white box" system as the HP x4610. At least at the hardware level. Knuth only knows at the firmware level.

Certainly, even if HP-UX worked on that HW, it is far from "supported" and I'm not sure if HP even continued "support" for Merced into 11.23 (11iv2) or if that ended with 11.22. I'm quite confident for example, that 11.31 (11iv3) doesn't "do" Merced, which means you wouldn't be running anything "contemporary" as far as HP-UX goes.

You can, as suggested, try running SLES on it. Frankly though, unless you have an historical interest in computers, systems based on Itanium 1 (aka Merced) probably aren't terribly interesting regardless of OS. Certainly, they will give you next to nothing wrt what a contemporary, Itanium2-based system would be like.

Re: HP-UX 11i IA64 install on IBM x380 IA64

Dennis Handly — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:57:57 GMT

>Rick: I'm not sure if HP even continued "support" for Merced into 11.23

No, as you said, it ended with 11.22. We had to give our Merced boxes away to another bean broker. :-)

Re: HP-UX 11i IA64 install on IBM x380 IA64

VK2COT — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:14:42 GMT

Hello,

And while we are the CPU types,
one of the quick ways to check them on
HP-UX is to run "getconf CPU_CHIP_TYPE" command and check the first four digits
of the result.

Here is a snippet from my Perl OAT script for HP-UX:

if ( "$Hardware" eq "ia64" ) {
$CPUCHIP = `getconf CPU_CHIP_TYPE 2>/dev/null`;
chomp($CPUCHIP);
if ( "$CPUCHIP" ) {
$CPUCC = substr($CPUCHIP,0,4);
$CPUCHIPTYPE =
"$CPUCC" eq "" ? "Merced"
: "$CPUCC" eq "5200" ? "McKinley"
: "$CPUCC" eq "5201" ? "Madison, Deerfield, Hondo"
: "$CPUCC" eq "5202" ? "Madison 9M, Fanwood"
: "$CPUCC" eq "5368" ? "Montecito, Millington"
: "$CPUCC" eq "5369" ? "Montvale"
: "Unknown";
}
else {
$CPUCHIPTYPE = "Merced";
}
}

Let's see what Tukwila comes up with soon...

Cheers,

VK2COT