topic Re: GUI SAM in Operating System - HP-UX

GUI SAM

Bill Brutzman — Wed, 04 May 2005 18:37:08 GMT

On our new Rx-2600 Itanium 2 with 11i v2, it would be nice to see SAM in gui mode.

How can this be accomplished?

Re: GUI SAM

Rajeev Shukla — Wed, 04 May 2005 19:03:25 GMT

Run an Xterm emulation and connect to your server and then run SAM, it will then start in GUI mode.

Run X-emulation either using exceed or reflection-x

Cheers
Rajeev

Re: GUI SAM

Bill Brutzman — Wed, 04 May 2005 19:08:34 GMT

What is exceed? What is reflection-x?

How do I run these guys?

Re: GUI SAM

Rajeev Shukla — Wed, 04 May 2005 19:16:20 GMT

It is a X-emulation software you need to install on your PC and then connect to the rx-2600 server using this software, which will open the x window and you can then run GUI SAM.

Below are the links where you can get them

http://www.hummingbird.com/products/nc/exceed/index.html
http://www.wrq.com/products/reflection/win/

Re: GUI SAM

Bill Brutzman — Thu, 05 May 2005 08:43:01 GMT

OK. I am familiar with WRQ and Hummingbird.
I will revisit these products.

What I was really asking... is there a way to do GUI on the console session of the RX-2600 itself?

Does it make sense to GUI on the server itself?

Re: GUI SAM

Alex Glennie — Thu, 05 May 2005 15:43:45 GMT

Bill : answer = no unless a graphics card and monitor can be attached : basically most hpux GUI's run under Xwindows and a window manager, these need a physical device aka graphics card to be displayed, a console just won't work.

most likely you'll see a cannot open display error, ReflectionsX and eXceed provide a remote Xserver 4u by means of the graphics card in the pc and their own s/w.

If you have a linux system you could simply remote login to the hpux system, export DISPLAY to the :0 and run SAM ... it would cost less ;-)

Re: GUI SAM

Bill Brutzman — Thu, 05 May 2005 16:02:08 GMT

There is a VGA port built in to the RX-2600.

This port appears to have respectable video capabilities.

I have a PC monitor connected to the RX-2600 together with an HP keyboard and mouse.

So, is it possible to get GUI SAM with this?

Re: GUI SAM

Patrick Wallek — Thu, 05 May 2005 16:17:26 GMT

It depends. Are you logged in via CDE or do you just have a command prompt?

If you are in CDE, then open a terminal window and at the # prompt, just type sam and see what happens. If it comes up in TUI mode, exit out, then 'export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0' and try sam again.

Re: GUI SAM

Steven E. Protter — Thu, 05 May 2005 16:32:08 GMT

With DISPLAY set xfs set to provide font service and x emulation software SAM will work GUI with any networked PC.

Graphics cards in servers are problematic and I never liked the idea, even after working with them.

Sam is a tool that can almost never be used. Few Sam functions can not be done on the command line.

For lvm work, the command line is more precise than Sam.

I recommend moving away from sam use for routine matters by systems administration. Reason: it doesn't work in single user or lvm mode boots.

I use sam as a learning tool. If I don't know how to do something (happens quite often!) I use sam to do it and look at the sam command logs. In there are the key commands needed to handle the task without sam.

I copy these logs into files and learn how sam did its magic.

SEP

Re: GUI SAM

Alex Glennie — Thu, 05 May 2005 16:33:23 GMT

I'm not in the office at present but http://docs.hp.com/en/5971-4238/5971-4238.pdf suggests to me yes providing a graphics card is available ...ioscan -fnC graph ?

Re: GUI SAM

Alex Glennie — Thu, 05 May 2005 16:41:10 GMT

thinking about this the graphics driver class name *may* have changed at 11.23 could be gvid, I'm 95 % confident answer is yes : just ensure a graphics card is claimed and that dtlogin is running at run level 3.

Re: GUI SAM

Bill Brutzman — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:17:32 GMT