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    <title>topic Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups in Operating System - HP-UX</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901647#M404207</link>
    <description>Darrel,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Are both dg_ora4 and dg_ora5 using EMC disks?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Again:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;1. What is the EMC array you're using&lt;BR /&gt;2. Post (as an attachment) output of "ioscan -kfnC disk"&lt;BR /&gt;3. Output of EMC TOol "inq" or "inquire"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:49:49 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Zinky</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:49:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901634#M404194</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;After a reboot we lost our Veritas Diskgroups.&lt;BR /&gt;When we try to import the diskgroup we get the following error:&lt;BR /&gt;Description: Import Diskgroup&lt;BR /&gt;       Date: Thu May 12 14:54:45 2005&lt;BR /&gt;    Command: /usr/sbin/vxdg  -n dg_ora5 import 1115126037.1869.aces54&lt;BR /&gt;     Output: vxvm:vxdg: ERROR: Disk group 1115126037.1869.aces54: import failed: Unexpected kernel error in configuration update&lt;BR /&gt;  Exit Code: 5&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;And another Diskgroup dg_ora4 doesn't show when executing the command:&lt;BR /&gt;vxdisk -o alldgs list&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Both Diskgroups are using disks from a EMC Box.&lt;BR /&gt;Diskgroups using the internal disks are oke.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanx in advanced &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Darrel</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:10:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901634#M404194</guid>
      <dc:creator>Darrel Louis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T08:10:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901635#M404195</link>
      <description>Does rootdg show up okay? Can you post 'vxdisk -o alldgs list'?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks,&lt;BR /&gt;David</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:31:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901635#M404195</guid>
      <dc:creator>David Child_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T08:31:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901636#M404196</link>
      <description>1. What kind of EMC array are you using? &lt;BR /&gt;2. Are you using PowerPath? &lt;BR /&gt;3. Are you using the full version of VxVM on HP-UX 11i? If so, do you have the right ASL instaled.&lt;BR /&gt;4. What VxVM Patch level do you have ? (Update 3?)&lt;BR /&gt;5. Is this a new/fresh VxVM installation?&lt;BR /&gt;6. Can you still see your EMC disks via the "inq" or "inquire" tool?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:34:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901636#M404196</guid>
      <dc:creator>Zinky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T08:34:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901637#M404197</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;David:&lt;BR /&gt;Rootdg is oke, only the diskgroups created with EMC disks are not OKE.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Nelson:&lt;BR /&gt;1. What kind of EMC array are you using? Symmetrix DMX2000&lt;BR /&gt;2. Are you using PowerPath? Yes&lt;BR /&gt;3. Are you using the full version of VxVM on HP-UX 11i? If so, do you have the right ASL instaled. Yes, but how to check ASL?&lt;BR /&gt;4. What VxVM Patch level do you have ? (Update 3?)&lt;BR /&gt;VxVM 3.5m Command Cumulative Patch 06 (PHCO_30834)&lt;BR /&gt;5. Is this a new/fresh VxVM installation?&lt;BR /&gt;No.&lt;BR /&gt;6. Can you still see your EMC disks via the "inq" or "inquire" tool? YES&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanx&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Darrel</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:43:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901637#M404197</guid>
      <dc:creator>Darrel Louis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T08:43:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901638#M404198</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I would start looking from the output of ioscan.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;i) Does ioscan's output shows the disks as CLAIMED?&lt;BR /&gt;ii) what is the o/p of "vxdisk list" ?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;Suraj</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:45:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901638#M404198</guid>
      <dc:creator>Suraj Singh_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T08:45:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901639#M404199</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;The disks are claimed, seen with ioscan.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What I see is that the dg is between (), is it because it is not imported?&lt;BR /&gt;output:&lt;BR /&gt;vxdisk -o alldgs list | grep ora5 &lt;BR /&gt;c4t0d7       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c4t4d2       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c4t4d3       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c4t4d4       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c4t4d5       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c4t4d6       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c4t4d7       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c4t5d0       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c4t5d1       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c4t5d2       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c4t5d3       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t0d7       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t4d1       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t4d2       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t4d3       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t4d4       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t4d5       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t4d6       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t4d7       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t5d0       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t5d1       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t5d2       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;c6t5d3       simple    -           (dg_ora5)     online&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thx&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Darrel&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:52:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901639#M404199</guid>
      <dc:creator>Darrel Louis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T08:52:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901640#M404200</link>
      <description>Check the DGid of the diskgroup you are trying to import "vxdisk -s list".&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Is this ID same as 1115126037.1869.aces54?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If no, there is some corruption in the DG.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Try:&lt;BR /&gt;vxdg -n dg_ora5 import &lt;OLD_DG_NAME&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;or,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;vxdg -f import &lt;OLD_DG_NAME&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Rgds&lt;/OLD_DG_NAME&gt;&lt;/OLD_DG_NAME&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:08:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901640#M404200</guid>
      <dc:creator>Suraj Singh_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:08:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901641#M404201</link>
      <description>Try doing:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;vxdctl enable&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;and then &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;vxdg list&lt;BR /&gt;vxvol -g dg_ora04 startall&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;and&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;mount your filesystems.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Again, is this a new instllation? What VxVM patch level do you have? (show_patches|grep -i vxvm)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:15:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901641#M404201</guid>
      <dc:creator>Zinky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:15:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901642#M404202</link>
      <description>Suraj:&lt;BR /&gt; vxdg -f import dg_ora4&lt;BR /&gt;vxvm:vxdg: ERROR: Disk group dg_ora4: import failed: No valid disk found containing disk group&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Nelson:&lt;BR /&gt;# vxdctl enable&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;# vxdg list                   &lt;BR /&gt;NAME         STATE           ID&lt;BR /&gt;rootdg       enabled  1090498046.1025.aces54&lt;BR /&gt;dg_ora5      enabled  1115904057.2281.aces54&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;# vxvol -g dg_ora04 startall&lt;BR /&gt;vxvm:vxvol: ERROR: Diskgroup dg_ora04 not found&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;# show_patches|grep -i vxvm&lt;BR /&gt;  PHCO_27100            HFS mkfs(1M) VxVM Rootability patch&lt;BR /&gt;  PHCO_27101            mkboot(1M) VxVM Rootability patch&lt;BR /&gt;  PHCO_27103            pre_init_rc enh for VxVM rootability&lt;BR /&gt;  PHCO_30834            VxVM 3.5m Command Cumulative Patch 06&lt;BR /&gt;  PHKL_27096            VxVM,EMC,Psets&amp;amp;vPar,slpq1,earlyKRS&lt;BR /&gt;  PHKL_27177            VxVM boot support change for os loader&lt;BR /&gt;  PHKL_29981            VxVM 3.5m Kernel Cumulative Patch 05&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Darrel&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:25:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901642#M404202</guid>
      <dc:creator>Darrel Louis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:25:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901643#M404203</link>
      <description>Hmm it appears your EMC LUNs are not visible anymore. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Can you do an inq or inquire if you have the EMC tools installed?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Until your EMC LUNs are once more visible, your EMC DG dg_ora04 will not be imported and available. Fix that EMC problem first and then you;ll be okay.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What EMC box do you use btw?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:29:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901643#M404203</guid>
      <dc:creator>Zinky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:29:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901644#M404204</link>
      <description>I am really starting to suspect whether all the disks are availabe to the OS?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Do you see any difference in the o/p of ioscan -fnC disk? Are some disks missing (though the possibility is less, but you never know...). You might want to check the LUN configuration on EMC.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Perform "vxdisk scandisks", and restart vxconfigd (vxconfigd -k -m enable).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Rgds</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:31:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901644#M404204</guid>
      <dc:creator>Suraj Singh_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:31:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901645#M404205</link>
      <description>Just a sec., what is teh DG name? Is it "dg_ora5" or "dg_ora4" ??&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:35:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901645#M404205</guid>
      <dc:creator>Suraj Singh_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:35:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901646#M404206</link>
      <description>Saraj, &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We have two dg:&lt;BR /&gt;- dg_ora4 &lt;BR /&gt;- dg_ora5&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;dg_ora5 was empty so we destroyed it and recreated it now.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;But dg_ora4 has lots of DB's in it.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Darrel</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:44:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901646#M404206</guid>
      <dc:creator>Darrel Louis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:44:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901647#M404207</link>
      <description>Darrel,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Are both dg_ora4 and dg_ora5 using EMC disks?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Again:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;1. What is the EMC array you're using&lt;BR /&gt;2. Post (as an attachment) output of "ioscan -kfnC disk"&lt;BR /&gt;3. Output of EMC TOol "inq" or "inquire"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:49:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901647#M404207</guid>
      <dc:creator>Zinky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:49:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901648#M404208</link>
      <description>Nelson,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We've checked the lun's on the EMC box and everything seems to be oke.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;See attachment, maybe you see something we're missing.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Darrel</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:50:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901648#M404208</guid>
      <dc:creator>Darrel Louis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:50:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901649#M404209</link>
      <description>ioscan output&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:52:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901649#M404209</guid>
      <dc:creator>Darrel Louis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:52:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901650#M404210</link>
      <description>Send also the full output of "vxdisk -o alldgs list"</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:54:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901650#M404210</guid>
      <dc:creator>Zinky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T09:54:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901651#M404211</link>
      <description>L &amp;amp; G,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What can be the cause of this problem?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What can cause a corruption?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Darrel</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 10:29:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901651#M404211</guid>
      <dc:creator>Darrel Louis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T10:29:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901652#M404212</link>
      <description>Hmm.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;There are no traces of oradg_04 at al in your latest vxdisk list output.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Do you have a backup copy of a vxdisk list or vxprint -Aht ?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;It also appears you're VxVM configuration is not properly setup for DMP (or you're not full licensed  for FULL VXVM). The alternate path to the EMC LUN does not seem to be in DMP.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Do a "vxdisk list c6t4d1".&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What happened to this server? Why was it rebooted? What changes? Is this a new configuration? Do you use PowerPath?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 10:35:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901652#M404212</guid>
      <dc:creator>Zinky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-12T10:35:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lost veritas Disk Groups</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901653#M404213</link>
      <description>Nelson don't have a copy or baclup of both.&lt;BR /&gt;We don't have a full lic.&lt;BR /&gt;Yes we use powerpath.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Attached info of a disk, that should belong to dg_ora4.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Darrel</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 03:33:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/lost-veritas-disk-groups/m-p/4901653#M404213</guid>
      <dc:creator>Darrel Louis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-13T03:33:18Z</dc:date>
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