topic Re: performance measurement in Operating System - HP-UX

performance measurement

Paul_481 — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:45:03 GMT

Hi Guys,

What do you think is the best performance monitoring tool to use for HPUX and what are the advantage/disadvantage of using them compared to others.

Regards,
Paul

Re: performance measurement

Patrick Wallek — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:56:25 GMT

There are 2 products that I wouldn't live without.

For interactively monitor, you want Glance.

For historical monitoring you want Measureware.

The beauty is that they come as a package in the GlancePlus Pak.

Information available here:
http://managementsoftware.hp.com/products/gppak2k/index.html

Re: performance measurement

Ralph Grothe — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:00:59 GMT

Hi Paul,

as Patrick pointed out Glance and MeasureWare are the best for collecting performance data for HP boxes.
They'll give you a hook onto every conceivable system metric for the HP-UX kernel.

But I'd also like to point your attention on another free tool that I discovered recently by an article in a German Linux magazin.
It's called Munin (don't know what that stands for).
If you're into scripting it is highly extendable and customizable.
It really is great on Linux and Solaris boxes.
The first is obvious, because it can easily collect all data from the the /proc virtual "kernel filesystem".
While for Solaris SUN once introduced kstat with a really nice Perl plug-in.
With kstat you get all the metrics of the Solaris kernel.
But you could also adopt Munin for use on an HP-UX box, maybe doesn't it so nicely integrate because you get not that easy at the HP-UX kernel metrics without the official HP products mentioned above.
A nice feature about Munin is that it uses round robin databases (like MeasureWare does by its data logfiles).
That means you do not need to care about collected data using up your filesystem space.
And it froduces nice graphs to be watched through a webbrowser.
Go here
http://www.linpro.no/projects/munin/
to find out more about it.
Here
http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/
you can find out about the used data storage backend (i.e. RRDtool)
It's also versatile for storing any kind of data that is steadily updated.

Re: performance measurement

Mahesh Kumar Malik — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:56:33 GMT

Hi Paul

Please visit following site to get details on suite of products from HP Openview division

http://www.managementsoftware.hp.com/products/a-z.html

Regards
Mahesh

Re: performance measurement

Cem Tugrul — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:57:59 GMT

Hi,
i am agree with Patrick's advice Glance
also i am still using it.
On the other hand,if you have SAN env
then i would suggest you to get SAN monitoring tools and use Glance(for your HP boxes) at the same time for best results

Good Luck,

Re: performance measurement

vinod_25 — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:02:55 GMT

hi

glance and perf ,measureware are best realtime performance monitoring tool...

Regards

Vinod K

Re: performance measurement

Paul_481 — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:51:52 GMT

thanks everyone for the reply, we have glance plus but not measureware. Is measure ware capable giving suggestions on what part of the system can be improve in terms of performance?

Re: performance measurement

mako_2 — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:57:35 GMT

Hi Paul,

Measureware enables you to set alarms (alarmdef file) when particular metric exceeds defined threshold

You have also ability to define bottlenecks since they might depend on several metrics.

Take a look into Doug Grumann's document.
http://www.interex.org/pubcontent/enterprise/jul00/14grum.html

Kind regards,

mako

Re: performance measurement

Ted Buis — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:32:47 GMT

GlancePlus Pak (Glance and Measureware) is best overall for reasons previously stated, but some of the other tools can still be very useful. Robert F. Sauers wrote a whole book on this subject titled, HP-UX 11i Tuning and Performance.

Re: performance measurement

Patrick Wallek — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:49:40 GMT

Glance and Measureware do not give suggestions for tuning your machines. Those programs just present you with the data and leave you to interpret it.

If you want something that will make suggestions, try Sar Check.
http://www.sarcheck.com/

Re: performance measurement

Paul_481 — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:28:02 GMT

Thanks Guys for your response, I think I got what I needed to know.

Regards,
Paul