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    <title>topic 11.31 Buf Cache vs Filecache in Operating System - HP-UX</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/11-31-buf-cache-vs-filecache/m-p/5087911#M441855</link>
    <description>Hello forum people.&lt;BR /&gt;Two questions for you today :)&lt;BR /&gt;About an rx3600 under 11.31&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I need to get up to speed with some of 11.31's terminology.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;A peek at the memory report in Glance turns up some pretty interesting numbers :&lt;BR /&gt;Buf Cache:     0mb&lt;BR /&gt;FileCache:   418mb&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I expected Filecache to be in that general region since I specified the filecache_min and filecache_max à 500MB but sould the Buf Cache read 0 ?  Since dbc_max_pct and dbc_min_pct are gone in 11.31 I'm thinking this might just be an artifact in Glance ?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;OK second question&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Since this is to be an Oracle server I set the FileCache pretty low, betting on the SGA doing its thing and all.  Upon installing nifty things like Oracle Application Server I noticed the memory subsystem got a little overwhealmed when the java installer was pushing files into the /opt filesystem.  Namely Page Outs were happening and the disk hosting /opt (local sas) was pegged at 100%.  Since I had plenty of physical RAM available at the time and that swapinfo showed only 17% of the pseudo-swap was allocated could this indicate that the server was, at that time, short on FileCache ?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thank you for your time !</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:54:51 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Francis Noël</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-14T20:54:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>11.31 Buf Cache vs Filecache</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/11-31-buf-cache-vs-filecache/m-p/5087911#M441855</link>
      <description>Hello forum people.&lt;BR /&gt;Two questions for you today :)&lt;BR /&gt;About an rx3600 under 11.31&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I need to get up to speed with some of 11.31's terminology.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;A peek at the memory report in Glance turns up some pretty interesting numbers :&lt;BR /&gt;Buf Cache:     0mb&lt;BR /&gt;FileCache:   418mb&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I expected Filecache to be in that general region since I specified the filecache_min and filecache_max à 500MB but sould the Buf Cache read 0 ?  Since dbc_max_pct and dbc_min_pct are gone in 11.31 I'm thinking this might just be an artifact in Glance ?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;OK second question&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Since this is to be an Oracle server I set the FileCache pretty low, betting on the SGA doing its thing and all.  Upon installing nifty things like Oracle Application Server I noticed the memory subsystem got a little overwhealmed when the java installer was pushing files into the /opt filesystem.  Namely Page Outs were happening and the disk hosting /opt (local sas) was pegged at 100%.  Since I had plenty of physical RAM available at the time and that swapinfo showed only 17% of the pseudo-swap was allocated could this indicate that the server was, at that time, short on FileCache ?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thank you for your time !</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:54:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/11-31-buf-cache-vs-filecache/m-p/5087911#M441855</guid>
      <dc:creator>Francis Noël</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-01-14T20:54:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 11.31 Buf Cache vs Filecache</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/11-31-buf-cache-vs-filecache/m-p/5087912#M441856</link>
      <description>Hello,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Firstly, there are several patches that are critical to performance on HP-UX 11.31.&lt;BR /&gt;How old is your build? I would do&lt;BR /&gt;an assessment and install patches if possible.&lt;BR /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;a) With the introduction of HP-UX 11.31, the&lt;BR /&gt;traditional Buffer Cache has been replaced&lt;BR /&gt;by the Unified File Cache (UFC).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The new sybsystem integrates the Memory&lt;BR /&gt;Page Cache and Buffer Cache to provide&lt;BR /&gt;coherency for file access.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;b) I am aware of some discussions in&lt;BR /&gt;various forums and HP has an open incident&lt;BR /&gt;number that a different issue with file&lt;BR /&gt;cache in HP-UX 11.31. Basically, if&lt;BR /&gt;a file is written to file cache and closed,&lt;BR /&gt;subsequent file operations, such as&lt;BR /&gt;open() and unlink(), hang while the entire&lt;BR /&gt;file is flushed from the file cache.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;There is also another issue when unaligned direct I/O is slow on HP-UX 11.31 when memory pressure exist.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I also know of some performance problems with&lt;BR /&gt;sequential writes to the file system. One&lt;BR /&gt;test site reported that turning on fcache_fb_policy helped.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Make sure that you have filecache_max set to&lt;BR /&gt;the right size instead of dbc_max_pct...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I will search for your type of problem&lt;BR /&gt;later this week (I am teaching HP-UX SNA I&lt;BR /&gt;and not much time is free for me).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I would suggest to contact your HP&lt;BR /&gt;representative and try to get:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;HPjconfig for tuning kernel for Java applications&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;HPmeter to measure performance of Java applications&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Caliper - general purpose application performance measurement/analysis tool&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Cheers,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;VK2COT</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:03:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/11-31-buf-cache-vs-filecache/m-p/5087912#M441856</guid>
      <dc:creator>VK2COT</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-01-16T08:03:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 11.31 Buf Cache vs Filecache</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/11-31-buf-cache-vs-filecache/m-p/5087913#M441857</link>
      <description>Hello Dusan and thank you for your reply.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;System build is pretty current.&lt;BR /&gt;I installed the september 2007 release and all critical patches are installed (according to SWA).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you are aware of any documentation pertaining to UFC I would appreciate a link.&lt;BR /&gt;Specifics on tuning the FileCache size would be welcome too.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:38:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/11-31-buf-cache-vs-filecache/m-p/5087913#M441857</guid>
      <dc:creator>Francis Noël</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-01-16T20:38:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 11.31 Buf Cache vs Filecache</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/11-31-buf-cache-vs-filecache/m-p/5087914#M441858</link>
      <description>Going to open a new thread, the issue has transmogrified itself.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:04:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/11-31-buf-cache-vs-filecache/m-p/5087914#M441858</guid>
      <dc:creator>Francis Noël</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-14T21:04:23Z</dc:date>
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