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    <title>topic filesystem block size in Operating System - HP-UX</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/filesystem-block-size/m-p/5917233#M482783</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;what's the best way to detect the filesystem block size&amp;nbsp; ( HPUX 11.31 ) ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I read those following info's :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.hpe.com/t5/System-Administration/Default-Block-Size-for-HPUX-11-31-PA-RISC/td-p/4729324" target="_blank"&gt;Default Block Size for HPUX 11.31 PA -RISC &lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://asgaur.com/wp/hp-ux-how-to-check-hpux-block-size/" target="_blank"&gt;HP-UX: How to check hpux block size&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I made a test and created a filesystem with block size "1024" below :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;"df -g"&lt;/STRONG&gt; shows "8192 file system block size" and "1024 fragment size"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;"fstyp -v"&lt;/STRONG&gt; shows the same with other output.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So the right information is "fragment size" and not "file system block size" ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Test:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;/usr/sbin/lvcreate -n test -L 512 /dev/vgtest&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;/usr/sbin/newfs -F vxfs -o largefiles -b &lt;STRONG&gt;1024&lt;/STRONG&gt; /dev/vgtest/rtest&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;fstyp -v "/dev/vgtest/test"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;mkdir /test&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;mount -F vxfs -o delaylog,largefiles&amp;nbsp; /dev/vgtest/test /test&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;df -g /test&lt;BR /&gt;/test&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (/dev/vgtest/test ) :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;8192 file system block size&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1024 fragment size&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;524288 total blocks&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 506667 total free blocks&lt;BR /&gt;475008 allocated free blocks&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 126668 total i-nodes&lt;BR /&gt;126664 total free i-nodes&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 126664 allocated free i-nodes&lt;BR /&gt;1074790519 file system id&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; vxfs file system type&lt;BR /&gt;0x10 flags&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 255 file system name length&lt;BR /&gt;/test file system specific string&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;fstyp -v "/dev/vgtest/test"&lt;BR /&gt;vxfs&lt;BR /&gt;version: 7&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;f_bsize: 8192&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;f_frsize: 1024&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;f_blocks: 524288&lt;BR /&gt;f_bfree: 506667&lt;BR /&gt;f_bavail: 475001&lt;BR /&gt;f_files: 126696&lt;BR /&gt;f_ffree: 126664&lt;BR /&gt;f_favail: 126664&lt;BR /&gt;f_fsid: 1074790519&lt;BR /&gt;f_basetype: vxfs&lt;BR /&gt;f_namemax: 254&lt;BR /&gt;f_magic: a501fcf5&lt;BR /&gt;f_featurebits: 0&lt;BR /&gt;f_flag: 16&lt;BR /&gt;f_fsindex: 9&lt;BR /&gt;f_size: 524288&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:59:09 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>support_billa</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-12-29T11:59:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>filesystem block size</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/filesystem-block-size/m-p/5917233#M482783</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;what's the best way to detect the filesystem block size&amp;nbsp; ( HPUX 11.31 ) ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I read those following info's :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.hpe.com/t5/System-Administration/Default-Block-Size-for-HPUX-11-31-PA-RISC/td-p/4729324" target="_blank"&gt;Default Block Size for HPUX 11.31 PA -RISC &lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://asgaur.com/wp/hp-ux-how-to-check-hpux-block-size/" target="_blank"&gt;HP-UX: How to check hpux block size&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I made a test and created a filesystem with block size "1024" below :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;"df -g"&lt;/STRONG&gt; shows "8192 file system block size" and "1024 fragment size"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;"fstyp -v"&lt;/STRONG&gt; shows the same with other output.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So the right information is "fragment size" and not "file system block size" ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Test:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;/usr/sbin/lvcreate -n test -L 512 /dev/vgtest&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;/usr/sbin/newfs -F vxfs -o largefiles -b &lt;STRONG&gt;1024&lt;/STRONG&gt; /dev/vgtest/rtest&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;fstyp -v "/dev/vgtest/test"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;mkdir /test&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;mount -F vxfs -o delaylog,largefiles&amp;nbsp; /dev/vgtest/test /test&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;df -g /test&lt;BR /&gt;/test&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (/dev/vgtest/test ) :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;8192 file system block size&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1024 fragment size&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;524288 total blocks&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 506667 total free blocks&lt;BR /&gt;475008 allocated free blocks&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 126668 total i-nodes&lt;BR /&gt;126664 total free i-nodes&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 126664 allocated free i-nodes&lt;BR /&gt;1074790519 file system id&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; vxfs file system type&lt;BR /&gt;0x10 flags&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 255 file system name length&lt;BR /&gt;/test file system specific string&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;fstyp -v "/dev/vgtest/test"&lt;BR /&gt;vxfs&lt;BR /&gt;version: 7&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;f_bsize: 8192&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;f_frsize: 1024&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;f_blocks: 524288&lt;BR /&gt;f_bfree: 506667&lt;BR /&gt;f_bavail: 475001&lt;BR /&gt;f_files: 126696&lt;BR /&gt;f_ffree: 126664&lt;BR /&gt;f_favail: 126664&lt;BR /&gt;f_fsid: 1074790519&lt;BR /&gt;f_basetype: vxfs&lt;BR /&gt;f_namemax: 254&lt;BR /&gt;f_magic: a501fcf5&lt;BR /&gt;f_featurebits: 0&lt;BR /&gt;f_flag: 16&lt;BR /&gt;f_fsindex: 9&lt;BR /&gt;f_size: 524288&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:59:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/filesystem-block-size/m-p/5917233#M482783</guid>
      <dc:creator>support_billa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-12-29T11:59:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: filesystem block size</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/filesystem-block-size/m-p/5917337#M482784</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;20 years ago, filesystem block sizes were particularly important, especially for old versions of database engines (using files, not raw) like Oracle. VxFS allocates space as extents and blocks are simply internal bookeeping, with no meaningful effect for typical filesystems and access methods. Here are a couple of references:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01919408/c01919408.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01919408/c01919408.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://dsstos.blogspot.com/2008/12/analyzing-impact-of-vxfs-filesystem.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://dsstos.blogspot.com/2008/12/analyzing-impact-of-vxfs-filesystem.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:41:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/filesystem-block-size/m-p/5917337#M482784</guid>
      <dc:creator>Bill Hassell</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-12-29T20:41:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: filesystem block size</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/filesystem-block-size/m-p/5919587#M482827</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;we try to use the input's of this white paper:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://hporacle.com/-/documents/view.asp?id=249" target="_blank"&gt;HP-UX VxFS mount options for Oracle Database environments&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;so there are recommendations with different block size .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i also don't know about filesystem block size managment, when a third party software like ORACLE store in other block sizes ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;example : a oracle database is created with block size 16 KB and the maximum filesystem block size is 8 KB.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;so you mean, this is never mind !&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also it is interested , when you try to find sparse files , you must know the ORACLE block size , when the filesystem block size is not the same block size of a ORACLE database :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.hpe.com/t5/Languages-and-Scripting/detect-sparse-files/m-p/5788913/highlight/true#M44559" target="_blank"&gt;detect sparse files&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;last question : how can i detect the filesystem block size ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:30:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/filesystem-block-size/m-p/5919587#M482827</guid>
      <dc:creator>support_billa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-01-02T13:30:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: filesystem block size</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/filesystem-block-size/m-p/5939527#M483019</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i found the solution :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A target="_blank" href="https://community.hpe.com/t5/Databases/oracle-and-filesystem-block-size/m-p/2740678#M10947"&gt;Accepted Solution oracle and filesystem block size&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;here are my questions about size listed&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;regards&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:47:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/filesystem-block-size/m-p/5939527#M483019</guid>
      <dc:creator>support_billa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-01-22T15:47:08Z</dc:date>
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