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replace mirrored root disks with larger

John Kittel — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:48:48 GMT

HP-UX 11.11 on rp2470 with LVM mirrorred root / boot disk.

In the past I have replaced failed root / boot disks using LVM OLR procedure (... pvchange -a N, replace disk, vgcfgrestore, pvchange -a y, ...).

Can I use the same procedure to replace the 2 root disks with larger disks (one at a time) ?

Re: replace mirrored root disks with larger

Torsten. — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 04:44:56 GMT

Since you don't have vgmodify to adjust the LVM structure, your option is to take an ignite backup and restore to the larger disks.

Re: replace mirrored root disks with larger

Joffo — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:55:33 GMT

If it is mirrored, just lvreduce then vgreduce (may need -f) then add the new disk in and re-mirror!

Re: replace mirrored root disks with larger

Pete Randall — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:58:48 GMT

But - if you do as Joffo suggests, you will not be able to fully utilize the larger disks - you will still have only the current sized disks worth of space available to you.

Re: replace mirrored root disks with larger

John Kittel — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:20:17 GMT

Ok, I think I understand why LVM OLR won't work, - because system is 11.11 and doesn't have vgmodify to change the LVM physical volume size information. vgmodify is vailable in 11i v2 and v3.

I don't understand yet why it won't work to reduce the mirrors, vgreduce to remove one disk, vgextend to add one new larger disk, then lvextend the logial volumes onto the new larger disk. Why does that not allow the new larger disk to be fully utilized?

I haven't used ignite for this before, but it sounds like the better / only way. I will begin researching how to do it.

Re: replace mirrored root disks with larger

Pete Randall — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:29:16 GMT

John,

It really comes down to the PE size and Max PE per PV parameters. When you mirror those limitations are applied to the new, larger disk, effectively limiting its size to that of the original.

Re: replace mirrored root disks with larger

Pete Randall — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:36:01 GMT

I should have added that LVM has unfortunately always defaulted those values so that they match the size of the disk when you do your vgcreate. That way why vgmodify was created.

Re: replace mirrored root disks with larger

donna hofmeister — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:31:32 GMT

here's how to do it:

    * Run lvreduce -m 0 /dev/vg00/lvol# <pv_path> to remove the mirrored extents from each logical volume in vg00 from the mirror disk (the drive that is NOT declared as the primary boot disk).
    * Run vgreduce /dev/vg00 <pv_path> to remove the mirror disk from vg00.
    * Shutdown the system and replace the now-un-mirrored disk with the new/larger disk.
    * Boot the box as normal.
    * Follow "How_to_mirror_a_boot_disk.pdf" to mirror vg00 to the new/larger disk. Be certain to set the alternate boot path to this new disk.
    * Shutdown and boot from the newly mirrored, alternate boot disk (interrupting autoboot, if necessary).
    * Run lvreduce -m 0 /dev/vg00/lvol# <pv_path> to remove the mirrored extents from each logical volume in vg00 where pv path is the old/small (and primary boot) disk.
    * Run vgreduce /dev/vg00 <pv_path> to remove the small disk from vg00.
    * Shutdown the system and replace the remaining small disk with the 2nd large disk.
    * Boot the box normally.
    * Repeat the procedure in "How_to_mirror_a_boot_disk.pdf" to mirror vg00 to the new larger disk.
    * Shutdown the system and boot from this just-mirrored and still-primary boot disk

but DO make an ignite tape/backup first!!.

Re: replace mirrored root disks with larger

Robert_Jewell — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:33:36 GMT

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When you mirror to the larger disk, it can only map the physical extents that equal the original volumes. In order for the space on the larger disk to be utilized the mappings would have to come from somewhere and since the original disk is smaller, those mappings simply dont exist.

Ignite backup and recovery is the best way to accomplish what you are looking for I think.

-Bob

Re: replace mirrored root disks with larger

Robert_Jewell — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:38:55 GMT

@donna - how does this process utilize the space on the larger disks?

Re: replace mirrored root disks with larger

Steven E. Protter — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:45:04 GMT

Shalom,

When you restore a system via Ignite, you have the option to intervene manually and change file system sizes. Also the size of the vg00 group can be expanded in the Ignite Interface.

It is all quite intuitive and menu driven.

You can expand any file system and even add new ones.

SEP