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    <title>topic Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3 in Operating System - HP-UX</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133248#M565249</link>
    <description>Here are scsimgr outputs</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:15:47 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Eric SAUBIGNAC</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-02T10:15:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133224#M565225</link>
      <description>Hi guys,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;need some help ...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;HP-UX 11iv3 September 2008, latest patches, on a BL860C, a second one on a BL870C. Both have a double san attachment on 2 independant brocade fabric. There are 2 EVA 4100.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;vg00 on internal disks. fine&lt;BR /&gt;Others vg, are on the san. Vg have been created with version 2.0 or version 2.1. All of them are distributed and mirrored over the 2 EVA.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We had an electrical outage with the blades and servers have rebooted. No outage with the san.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;From this point, I can't activate any vg on the san. Command simply doesn't return ;-(&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have tried -s option to prevent resynchronization, but vgchange still hangs&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I can see all my luns with ioscan -m lun. ioscan -P health shows no trouble. Diskinfo or dd on /dev/rdisk/diskXXX are OK.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Any idea ?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks in advance</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:05:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133224#M565225</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eric SAUBIGNAC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:05:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133225#M565226</link>
      <description>A very first idea - check if the LUNs are write protected for any (unknown) reason.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;This may cause very strange results ...</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:08:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133225#M565226</guid>
      <dc:creator>Torsten.</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:08:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133226#M565227</link>
      <description>Also check for related messages from the diags in syslog and roots mailbox.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:13:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133226#M565227</guid>
      <dc:creator>Torsten.</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:13:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133227#M565228</link>
      <description>Shalom,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Can you post command and return codes?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;It is also possible that due to the shutdown the file systems on the disks (I know next step) are corrupt and require fixfs prior to mounting.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;SEP</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:16:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133227#M565228</guid>
      <dc:creator>Steven E. Protter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:16:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133228#M565229</link>
      <description>Also check:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;1. Output of "lvmadm -l" - does all look as you would expect?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;2. Can you run pvdisplay on all the SAN disks?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;HTH&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Duncan</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:17:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133228#M565229</guid>
      <dc:creator>Duncan Edmonstone</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:17:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133229#M565230</link>
      <description>Thanks torsten,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have checked from command view eva side : all luns have "write protect" set to "NO", are Read/write access and write cache set to write back&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;:-(&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I continue to check HP-UX's logs files and will tell you.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Eric</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:24:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133229#M565230</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eric SAUBIGNAC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:24:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133230#M565231</link>
      <description>Torsten, no mail at all. see syslog.log in attached file.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I see no trouble but :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Oct  2 10:38:31 una00009 vmunix: Target path (class=tgtpath, instance=9) has gone offline.  The target path h/w path is 0/4/0/&lt;BR /&gt;0/0/1.0x100000062b0afdf5&lt;BR /&gt;Oct  2 10:38:31 una00009 vmunix: Target path (class=tgtpath, instance=9) has gone online.  The target path h/w path is 0/4/0/0&lt;BR /&gt;/0/1.0x100000062b0afdf5&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;the Path 0/4/0/0/0/1.0x100000062b0afdf5 is a san path but I don't know yet what it is. What i am sure is that it is not an eva.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;And second :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Oct  2 10:38:31 una00009 vmunix: WARNING: moduload : module is busy, module id = 5, name = cfsmdr&lt;BR /&gt;Oct  2 10:38:31 una00009 vmunix: class : tgtpath, instance 9&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Don't know what it means&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:32:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133230#M565231</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eric SAUBIGNAC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:32:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133231#M565232</link>
      <description>0/4/0/0/0/1.0x100000062b0afdf5 is simply a backup library with REO drives</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:36:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133231#M565232</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eric SAUBIGNAC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:36:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133232#M565233</link>
      <description>Thanks SEP&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The command vgchange simply doesn't return. No error code ;-(&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;And the problem is at LVM level ... for the moment. May be FS are corrupted but I don't think it is the origin of the current problem</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:38:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133232#M565233</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eric SAUBIGNAC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:38:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133233#M565234</link>
      <description>Thanks Duncan,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;output lvmadm as expected :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;root@una00009:/var/adm/syslog&amp;gt;lvmadm -l&lt;BR /&gt;--- Version 1.0 volume groups ---&lt;BR /&gt;VG Name /dev/vg00&lt;BR /&gt;PV Name /dev/disk/disk1_p2&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;--- Version 2.0 volume groups ---&lt;BR /&gt;VG Name /dev/vghpdepot&lt;BR /&gt;PV Name /dev/disk/disk56&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk111&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;VG Name /dev/vgsapput&lt;BR /&gt;PV Name /dev/disk/disk46&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk55&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk110&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk106&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;VG Name /dev/vgsaptmp&lt;BR /&gt;PV Name /dev/disk/disk6&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk11&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk16&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk26&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk101&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk107&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk102&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk108&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;VG Name /dev/vgtool&lt;BR /&gt;PV Name /dev/disk/disk25&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk31&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk36&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk41&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk103&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk109&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk104&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk105&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;VG Name /dev/vgignite&lt;BR /&gt;PV Name /dev/disk/disk116&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk119&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk124&lt;BR /&gt;        /dev/disk/disk129&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;pvdisplay has 2 reactions :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;- on disk46 it hangs. I guess it is normal since "vgchange -a y -s vgsapput" is currently hanging&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;- it complains on disks from other vg. But since those vg are not activated I guess it is normal. Example :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;root@una00009:/var/adm/syslog&amp;gt;pvdisplay /dev/disk/disk129&lt;BR /&gt;pvdisplay: Warning: couldn't query physical volume "/dev/disk/disk116":&lt;BR /&gt;The specified path does not correspond to physical volume attached to&lt;BR /&gt;this volume group&lt;BR /&gt;pvdisplay: Warning: couldn't query physical volume "/dev/disk/disk119":&lt;BR /&gt;The specified path does not correspond to physical volume attached to&lt;BR /&gt;this volume group&lt;BR /&gt;pvdisplay: Warning: couldn't query physical volume "/dev/disk/disk124":&lt;BR /&gt;The specified path does not correspond to physical volume attached to&lt;BR /&gt;this volume group&lt;BR /&gt;pvdisplay: Warning: couldn't query physical volume "/dev/disk/disk129":&lt;BR /&gt;The specified path does not correspond to physical volume attached to&lt;BR /&gt;this volume group&lt;BR /&gt;pvdisplay: Warning: couldn't query all of the physical volumes.&lt;BR /&gt;pvdisplay: Couldn't retrieve the names of the physical volumes&lt;BR /&gt;belonging to volume group "/dev/vgignite".&lt;BR /&gt;pvdisplay: Cannot display physical volume "/dev/disk/disk129".&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Eric</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:44:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133233#M565234</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eric SAUBIGNAC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:44:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133234#M565235</link>
      <description>I'm not yet this familiar with 11.31 - I still struggle with all the new device files and pathes, but anyway, let's try some things:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ ioscan -fkm lun&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ ioscan -P health -C disk &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;$ scsimgr -v lun_map</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:54:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133234#M565235</guid>
      <dc:creator>Torsten.</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:54:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133235#M565236</link>
      <description>Found on the second system, that has the same problem, the same message in syslog :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Oct  2 10:40:31 una00011 vmunix: WARNING: moduload : module is busy, module id = 6, name = cfsmdr&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;In OLDsyslog there is no message of this kind.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:59:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133235#M565236</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eric SAUBIGNAC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T08:59:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133236#M565237</link>
      <description>This is the CIFS File System Module (CFSM) - see&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://docs.hp.com/en/B8725-90118/ch11.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://docs.hp.com/en/B8725-90118/ch11.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I don't think this is really related.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:04:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133236#M565237</guid>
      <dc:creator>Torsten.</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T09:04:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133237#M565238</link>
      <description>Eric,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;cfsmdr is the CIFS File System Module Pseudo Driver - can't see that being connected in any way - do you share any of the filesystems out using CIFS/samba??&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;# kcmodule -v cfsmdr&lt;BR /&gt;Module              cfsmdr  (1.0)&lt;BR /&gt;Description         CIFS File System Module Pseudo Driver&lt;BR /&gt;Timestamp           Tue Feb  5 23:54:53 2008 [47A8F74D]&lt;BR /&gt;State               loaded (via autoload)&lt;BR /&gt;State at Next Boot  auto (as requested)&lt;BR /&gt;Capable             auto static loaded unused&lt;BR /&gt;Depends On          interface HPUX_11_31_PERF:1.0&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;HTH&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Duncan</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:08:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133237#M565238</guid>
      <dc:creator>Duncan Edmonstone</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T09:08:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133238#M565239</link>
      <description>Do you have evainfo installed?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What does it tell?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:10:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133238#M565239</guid>
      <dc:creator>Torsten.</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T09:10:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133239#M565240</link>
      <description>Torsten,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;find in attached file output of command you asked.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I see no problem with those commands, but as for you, I have no big experience with 11iv3.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:15:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133239#M565240</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eric SAUBIGNAC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T09:15:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133240#M565241</link>
      <description>OK, now we now most of the LUNs have status&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;State                         = UNOPEN&lt;BR /&gt;Last Open or Close state      = ACTIVE &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;but not&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;State                         = ACTIVE&lt;BR /&gt;Last Open or Close state      = ACTIVE &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;this must have to do with fabric logins, IMHO.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Maybe a timing issue during start up the environment after the power outage?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Are all the eva ports online (from switch point of view)?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Any other (working) connected servers to these evas?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:21:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133240#M565241</guid>
      <dc:creator>Torsten.</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T09:21:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133241#M565242</link>
      <description>Torsten, Duncan,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have found that a SAN administrator has given san access to the REO library.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So I have modified zoning to prevent my HP-UX boxes to access this library and have rebooted the boxes.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;There is no more message about "cfsmdr" but vgchange still hangs :-(</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:21:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133241#M565242</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eric SAUBIGNAC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T09:21:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133242#M565243</link>
      <description>... and how about the good old&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;# ioscan -fn&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;all pathes visible, CLAIMED?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:23:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133242#M565243</guid>
      <dc:creator>Torsten.</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T09:23:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vgchange hangs on 11iv3</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133243#M565244</link>
      <description>Yes, everything seems nice in the fabric : from switch point of view, from command view, even from a PA-RISC 11.11 sap cluster. Autopath shows no defect.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have not installed evainfo. I will.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Status Unopen, OK, but is it really the sign of a problem since san vg are not activated ?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:26:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/vgchange-hangs-on-11iv3/m-p/5133243#M565244</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eric SAUBIGNAC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-02T09:26:10Z</dc:date>
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