topic Re: What's the "S" in -rw-rwSr-- in Operating System - HP-UX

What's the "S" in -rw-rwSr--

Masaki Birchmier — Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:29:07 GMT

Files created/modified with asu put an "S" in the file properies such as -rw-rwSr--
What is the "S" ?

I exported a 10.20/asu file system to a 11.00/CIFS system.

The web server on the 11.00 system can't open files (permission denied) that were on the 10.20 system "IF" they were touched by ASU (have "S" in the file properties) whats up with that?

If I copy the file over, the webserver reads the file just fine.

Masaki

Re: What's the "S" in -rw-rwSr--

harry d brown jr — Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:32:04 GMT

do a man on chmod:

# touch /tmp/stupidfile
# ls -l /tmp/stupidfile
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root sys 0 Apr 5 11:13 /tmp/stupidfile
# chmod g+s /tmp/stupidfile
# ls -l /tmp/stupidfile
-rw-rwSrw- 1 root sys 0 Apr 5 11:13 /tmp/stupidfile
#

live free or die
harry

Re: What's the "S" in -rw-rwSr--

Joseph C. Denman — Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:34:08 GMT

"S" is the set group execution bit.

man chmod

...jcd...

Re: What's the "S" in -rw-rwSr--

Helen French — Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:34:45 GMT

Hi Masaki:

"S" is an additional file permission paramter like 'rwx'. It is used to set-owner-ID-on-file-execution or set-group-ID-on-file-execution permission for who. Useful only if 'u' or 'g' is expressed or implied in who. In your case. the group-ID is set.

# man chmod - for more details

HTH,
Shiju

Re: What's the "S" in -rw-rwSr--

John Carr_2 — Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:35:20 GMT

Hi

s is for add or delete set-group-ID-on-file execution . check out man page for chmod.

john.

Re: What's the "S" in -rw-rwSr--

Mark Greene_1 — Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:37:32 GMT

that sets the "sticky bit" with no execute permissions:

chmod 2666 [filename]

will produce that permissions mask. man 2 chmod for more information on what the sticky bit does.

HTH
mark

Re: What's the "S" in -rw-rwSr--

S.K. Chan — Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:40:31 GMT

If you're root and you chmod on a file, say ..

# chmod 2444 fileA
==> fileA will be r--r-Sr--

If you're regular user chmod on a file the user owned will show ..

$ chmod 2444 fileB
==> fileB will be r--r-sr--

Basically SGID is turned on, it means whoever runs that script will "effectively" run it as the group ownership of that script.

Re: What's the "S" in -rw-rwSr--

Jeff Schussele — Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:41:55 GMT

Hi Masaki,

That's a "set-ID" - group set-ID in this case.
Means that whenever the file is executed the process will be owned by the group ID
Can only be cleared with a chmod g-s filename.
But it's been set for a reason - I wouldn't clear unless you know why you should.

Rgds,
Jeff

Re: What's the "S" in -rw-rwSr--

Tom Danzig — Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:54:22 GMT

From the "ls" man page:

------s--- Execute/search by group; set group ID on execution

------S--- No execute/search by group; set group ID on

Intresting to note that OmniBack uses the group S to lock files during a backup to prevent there use. A member of the group that owns the file cannot the execute/search it. We had a backup fail which had the "lock files" option set and could not start an Oracle DB because this bit was set on one of the control files. Took a bit of digging to find that one!