topic Re: Creating new VG need HEX help in Operating System - HP-UX

Creating new VG need HEX help

Jeremy Loukinas_1 — Mon, 06 Jan 2003 20:16:14 GMT

I am creating some new vg's.

I know the command goes something like this..

mkdir /dev/vgxx
mknod /dev/vgxx/groupc c 64 0xNN0000
then a vgcreate..
How do I figure out the minor number for the group in hex?

Jeremy
Sunadmin@jslracing.com

Re: Creating new VG need HEX help

Pete Randall — Mon, 06 Jan 2003 20:19:01 GMT

Jeremy,

Typically the minor number matches the vg number. For example vg02 would be /dev/vg02/group c 64 0x020000

You can however use any legitimate hex number as long as it's unique.

Pete

Re: Creating new VG need HEX help

Christopher McCray_1 — Mon, 06 Jan 2003 20:21:19 GMT

Unless you have to consider shared vgs in Serviceguard, then I would do:

# ll /dev/*/group

To list the the group files and start where the las one left off, so if the last one was, for example, 0x090000, then your next ones would be 0x0a0000, 0x0b0000, 0x0c0000, 0x0d0000 ..., 0x0f0000, 0x100000, and so on.

Hope this helps

Chris

Re: Creating new VG need HEX help

Tom Danzig — Mon, 06 Jan 2003 20:22:28 GMT

The group minor number need only be unique to the system. To find out what numbers are in use:

find /dev -name group -exec ls -l {} \;

I typically use the same as the VG number (if it is in fact a number). Otherwise, I pick the next one up.

Re: Creating new VG need HEX help

Sridhar Bhaskarla — Mon, 06 Jan 2003 20:29:58 GMT

Hi,

You don't need to figure out the minor number. Make it unique and it should be less than the kernel parameter maxvgs.

To see if your minor number is unique, do

ll /dev/*/group

Note down the minor numbers of all the group files you found and pick a new minor number. Since only two fields are used you cannot go beyond "ff" which is 255 and that is the limit of max. no. of volume groups you can have on the system. However, the actual limit on your system is dependent on the kernel parameter maxvgs.

kmtune -l -q maxvgs

As said by Pete, good practice is to match vgyy with the minor number 0xyy0000

-Sri

Re: Creating new VG need HEX help

Michael Tully — Mon, 06 Jan 2003 21:07:48 GMT

Sometimes trying to find the next hex number that can be used is confusing. Here is a script that will do the job.

# ------------------ Decimal to Hex Converter

while [ $# -ge 1 ]
do
INPUT=$1
shift
echo "obase=16;ibase=10;${INPUT};quit" | bc
done
# --------------------------------------------
e.g.
# dec_hex.sh 12
C

Re: Creating new VG need HEX help

Paul Sperry — Mon, 06 Jan 2003 21:12:02 GMT

0xNN0000 can be anything as long as it is unique

Re: Creating new VG need HEX help

Dave Wherry — Tue, 07 Jan 2003 15:05:52 GMT

A practice I've used, which honestly has only come in handy a few times, is to set up groups of volume group numbers.
For example, on all of my systems vg00 is the operating system. On my production system all of my Oracle and SAP executables go in vg10. Then for the Oracle database I began with vg11, then vg12 and so on, adding them as I needed them.
On my QA system the executables are in vg20 with the database beginning in vg21 and so on.
My Development system uses vg30 and then vg31 and so on.
Other applications like OmniBack and Network Node Manager have their own unique volume group number.
The reason I do this is for portability between systems. Most of this is on an XP256 array. If I want to, or need to move an application to another host, either temporarily or for good, it's just easier if they already have a unique volume group number.
It doesn't happen often. I've used this approach when working on upgrades or some major tests. It also helps in a disaster recovery situation. I can bring my production environment up on my QA system in a matter of minutes without disturbing the QA enveironment.
Maybe a little over the top but, is has helped.