topic Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected in Operating System - HP-UX

Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Keely Jackson — Tue, 21 May 2002 12:42:22 GMT

Hi

I am trying to connect to A Vodafone messaging centre from Kermit - settings etc below. If I make the connection manually, e.g. modem none and type 'at' commands myself, I have no problems. However, if I try and do it interactively, I can connect ok, I get the prompt from the remote host but am then unable to type anything to send back and the connection times out. Generally I use CDE via Reflections but I have also tried it from a non CDE character interface too with no success. I have RTFM'd the manual but cannot find anything helpful. Does anybody have any suggestions, pretty please?

Many thanks

Keely

C-Kermit 6.0.192 runnng on K580 HP-UX 11.0 External Diamond modem configured to use software flow control AT&K4 not drop DTR AT&D2 and detect carrier AT&C1.
Kermit settings/commands are:

set modem unknown (using hayes cannot connect)
set line /dev/ttyd0p7
set speed 9600
set parity even
set flow xon/xoff
set modem command init at&z\{13}
set dial timeout 200
set dial display on
dial atdt9nnnnnnnnn

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Paula J Frazer-Campbell — Tue, 21 May 2002 13:03:04 GMT

Hi

A couple of things to try:-

On the connection that works immediatly before connect enter:_

show com

and note the settings.

Do the same on the other connection and compare.

I would also be inclined to set the modem to hayes.

HTH

Paula

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Keely Jackson — Tue, 21 May 2002 13:19:41 GMT

Hi Paula

The show comm for both is exactly the same;

Communications Parameters:
Line: /dev/ttyd0p7, speed: 9600, mode: local, modem: none
Terminal bits: 7, parity: even, duplex: full, flow: xon/xoff, handshake: none
Carrier: auto, lockfile: /var/spool/locks/LCK..ttyd0p7
Escape character: 28 (^\)

Carrier Detect (CD): Off
Dataset Ready (DSR): Off
Clear To Send (CTS): Off
Ring Indicator (RI): Off
Data Terminal Ready (DTR): On
Request To Send (RTS): Off

Communications Parameters:
Line: /dev/ttyd0p7, speed: 9600, mode: local, modem: unknown
Terminal bits: 7, parity: even, duplex: full, flow: xon/xoff, handshake: none
Carrier: auto, lockfile: /var/spool/locks/LCK..ttyd0p7
Escape character: 28 (^\)

Carrier Detect (CD): Off
Dataset Ready (DSR): Off
Clear To Send (CTS): Off
Ring Indicator (RI): Off
Data Terminal Ready (DTR): On
Request To Send (RTS): Off

I have tried setting the modem type to both hayes and hayes-high-speed. I get the connect 9600 message from the modem but am then unceremoniously dumped straight back to the kermit prompt with the message 'communications disconnected'.
I have also tried fiddling around with the terminal settings, eg echo and duplex all to no avail.
I confess to being baffled.

Cheers
Keely

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Paula J Frazer-Campbell — Tue, 21 May 2002 14:06:10 GMT

Hi

Looking at where you are connecting "ttyd0p7".

This looks like the internal modem port on a K class ?

Are you using the predictive modem?

If so try the speed at 2400.

Paula

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Keely Jackson — Tue, 21 May 2002 14:13:52 GMT

Hello again

Yes it is the same port. It can be configured for either the internal or external modem using the Ctrl B command at the console. In this case I have configured it for the external modem.

Definitely not using the internal modem after reading other forums warning not to touch it with the preverbial barge pole!

Regards
Keely

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Paula J Frazer-Campbell — Tue, 21 May 2002 14:20:38 GMT

Hi Keely

If I understand correcty - from the console all ok, but from a telnet not?

Am I correct?

Paula

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Keely Jackson — Tue, 21 May 2002 14:27:27 GMT

Ah, possibly not. What do I need to check?

Keely

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Paula J Frazer-Campbell — Tue, 21 May 2002 14:38:59 GMT

Keely

What I was trying to get/understand was the difference from working to not working.

Are you trying a connect manually and all ok and from a script not?

Paula

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Keely Jackson — Tue, 21 May 2002 14:46:36 GMT

Paula

Sorry misunderstood what you meant. I have attahed a file which shows what I have been doing.
First part is me typing all the commands direct to the modem, second part is trying to use kermit to do some of it. I have put it all in a script too but this fails at pretty much the same point.

Thanks for your suggestions so far. Most appreciated.

Regards
Keely

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Paula J Frazer-Campbell — Wed, 22 May 2002 06:37:53 GMT

Hi

Some things come to mind,

1. The working connection has "none" on modem and the not working "unknown", have you tried defining a modem for each connection?

2. Is your script carrying the same environmental variables as your session that works.

3. I have just tried a connection and sent a message to you, all I set was line and speed and it works OK. My kermit is the same version as yours running on 11.00.

4. I also have noticed that you are dialing with a 9 prefix - can you get a normal land line to try from as your internal system could effect your connection.

Also:-

Give it a try with just:-

Kermit
set line /dev/ttyd0p7
set speed 9600
c (short for connect)
atdt907785499999

(ETC)

HTH

Paula

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Keely Jackson — Wed, 22 May 2002 06:54:50 GMT

Hi Paula

Got your messages fine. Not in the office today - dreaded exams. Will try tomorrow.

Thanks

Keely

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

U.SivaKumar_2 — Wed, 22 May 2002 06:58:18 GMT

hi,
When you get the connection , check in the modem that CD is glowing continously . if
flickers frequently. Telephone Line might
be noisy and causing data corruption.
connect a telephone to that line and listen
to the dial-tone and check whether it is heard
clearly or with noise signals.

regards,
U.SivaKumar

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Thomas Boerner_1 — Wed, 22 May 2002 09:10:03 GMT

Hi,

one thing I can see is that you use the command:

dial atdt907785499999

instead of the usual

dial 907785499999

Try that and tell us more...

HTH

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Keely Jackson — Thu, 23 May 2002 07:23:19 GMT

Hi Paula,

Hope you are ok this morning.

Your suggestion
Kermit
set line /dev/ttyd0p7
set speed 9600
c (short for connect)
atdt907785499999

(equivalent of modem none) does not work here. I cannot connect properly unless flow is set to xon/xoff and parity set to even, then all is hunky dory and I can send the message.
The problem occurs as soon as I try to specify modem type, hence trying to get kermit to do the connect. Having tried both the Hayes options and a couple of others to no avail, the closest I have got is with modem set to unkwnown, at least it then connects and I get the right prompts, I just can't type in the number or message.

I haven't really been using a script as I wanted to get it working from the command line (ha ha) before I script it properly. Unfortunately, I don't have a direct line I can use, but I guess the switchboard is not the problem else I would never get a successful connection.

Thanks

Keely

ps
U.SivaKumar and Thomas, the phone line is fine as I can connect ok, and you have to dial atdt99999 if you do not specify a modem as the dial string is not set. Thanks anyway.

Do not fear, I will assign your points.

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Paula J Frazer-Campbell — Thu, 23 May 2002 09:24:28 GMT

Hi Keely

Good morning to you.

These are the setting from a K class running 11.00 and the same kermit as you:-

[/] C-Kermit>show com Communications Parameters:
Line: /dev/ttyd1p11, speed: 9600, mode: local, modem: usrobotics
Terminal bits: 7, parity: none, duplex: full, flow: rts/cts, handshake: none
Carrier: auto, lockfile: /var/spool/locks/LCK..ttyd1p11
Escape character: 28 (^\)

Carrier Detect (CD): Off
Dataset Ready (DSR): On
Clear To Send (CTS): On
Ring Indicator (RI): Off
Data Terminal Ready (DTR): On
Request To Send (RTS): Off
These work fine on my system.

Questions:-

1. What modem are you using.
2. I am still concerned about using your internal phone network as these can have strange effects on comms. If you can "Borry" a normal tel line and test.

HTH

Paula

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Paula J Frazer-Campbell — Thu, 23 May 2002 10:21:36 GMT

Keely

What term setting are you using?

My "OK" connection is wy60.

I am trying to eliminate all possibilities.

Paula

Re: Kermit - cannot input anything when connected

Keely Jackson — Thu, 23 May 2002 10:55:48 GMT

Hi Paula

It is sorted. I think it must have been inconsistencies with either error-correction of data compression. I have borrowed the supra modem settings and all is ok. Typical it was about the last one I tried.

Thank you so much for all your time and efforts. It really is much appreciated.

Enjoy the rest of the day.

Cheers
Keely