topic Re: How do you download patches? in Operating System - HP-UX

How do you download patches?

Zachary Stowell — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:46:33 GMT

My Unix 11.00 system is not connected to the internet. It's on it's own private network. I've been having problems downloading patches from the HP website to it. I've been downloading the patches to my PC that runs with Windows XP, but when I write those patches to a CD, the CD is unreadable in my UNIX system. I'm assuming that Window's CD writing utility is making it so the CD is in some sort of format that my UNIX system can't read. Anyone experience this before and have a solution?

Re: How do you download patches?

Steven Schweda — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:19:25 GMT

> It's on it's own private network.
^^^^--^^^^--- They can't both be right.

> Window's [...]

Looks like a chronic problem. Try a Web
search for:
eats shoots leaves

> [...] the CD is unreadable in my UNIX
> system.

What, exactly, does this mean? Drive spits
out the disc? "mount" fails? File names are
funny?

> Anyone experience this before and have a
> solution?

I have no relevant Windows experience, but
I'd assume that its CD-writing utility can
produce an ISO-9660-compatible disc. If you
can enable the "Rock Ridge" file name scheme
(and disable "Joliet"), that might help some
file name problems.

It's hard to say if I have a solution until I
see a description of the problem clearer than
"the CD is unreadable".

Re: How do you download patches?

Zachary Stowell — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:23:19 GMT

When I attempt to mount the CD if fails to mount because it says the device is busy. But I can mount any of the HP CD's that came with system.

Re: How do you download patches?

Steven Schweda — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:00:45 GMT

I suppose that a transcript showing actual
working and failing "mount" commands would be
too much of a bother?

> But I can mount any of the HP CD's that
> came with system.

Are those ISO-9660 file systems, or ufs, or
what? ("mount" may offer clues.) Any other
handy (newer?) non-Windows systems where you
can try the mystery disc?

Is the disc a CD-R or CD-RW? If -RW, is the
drive in the HP-UX system new/good enough to
be able to read it? For that matter, can it
read _anything_ other than a factory-pressed
disc?

11.00 is older than anything I have, so it
may have quirks about which I know nothing.

Re: How do you download patches?

Zachary Stowell — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:13:24 GMT

The message displayed from the mount command is as follows:

The command used to mount the new file system, mount(1), has failed. The stderr from this command is shown below. The disk has not been configured for use.

The command used to mount the new file system, mount(1), has failed. The stderr output from the command is shown below.

mount: dev/dsk/c0t0d0 on /cdrom: Device Busy

The CD-ROM is a read only TEAC-224E CD-ROM.

I have an even older system that runs with HPUX 10.20 and I get the exact same error message.

The type of CD I'm using is a CD RW. Unfortunately we don't have any other types of CDs. They're all CD RWs.

Re: How do you download patches?

Masud Parvez — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:24:27 GMT

When you write you CD into windows what WR Speed you used.

May be your Old HPUX system CD drive speed can't read that CD.

Also check if someone is using cdrom mount point or not.
check by this commmand

fuser -u /cdrom

Send the SIGKILL signal to each process using each file

fuser -k /cdrom

Re: How do you download patches?

Zachary Stowell — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:37:00 GMT

I don't know what speed the windows PC writes the CD at. When I download the patches, I send them straight to the D: drive (which is the CD ROM) and after the download finishes I get a popup bubbles saying that I have files waiting to be written to the CD and to click the pop up to write the CD. After I click the popup I get a window that shows the files waiting to be written to the CD and I just pick next (cancel is the only other option) and then it writes the files to the CD.

Re: How do you download patches?

Zachary Stowell — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:38:41 GMT

Oh forgot. I'm the only user on the system so it's impossible for anyone else to be using the cdrom drive. Also immediately after I get that error trying to install the patches I've downloaded, I can take one of they HP system CDs the system came with and mount that with no problems and can see the contents of that disk.

Re: How do you download patches?

Steven Schweda — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:04:35 GMT

> The message displayed from the mount
> command is as follows:
> [...]

You got all that from a "mount" command? Get
serious. What. exactly, did you do, and
what, exactly, happened when you did it?

Are you using SAM to do the mount, or what?
Did you try a manual "mount" command,
possibly with some options? ("man 1m mount",
"man fstyp", ...?) What's (relevant) in
/etc/fstab? If no one is specifying "-F
cdfs", that could cause some difficulty.

What does a plain "/usr/sbin/mount" say? It
would be nice to know that no one is using
dev/dsk/c0t0d0 or /cdrom. (I never seem to
get much of value from "fuser", but if you
have "lsof" installed, that might be more
informative.)

> May be your Old HPUX system CD drive speed
> can't read that CD.

Speed? That sounds very unlikely to be the
explanation. (Of anything.)

The product info I found at teac.com suggests
that a CD-RW should not be a problem for this
drive (but it could be old and dim/blind,
too).

> [...] Unfortunately we don't have any other
> types of CDs [...]

Try a store? CD-R discs are normally pretty
cheap. I'd hold off on spending money until
the other possibilities have been considered,
however.

Re: How do you download patches?

Masud Parvez — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:08:03 GMT

I am not talking about CDROM busy I am talking about mount point busy.

You have keep busy your mount point /cdrom or not.
If you login to your system go into /cdrom mount point and try to mount cdrom then you will face this problem
like below example
# cd /cdrom
# mount /dev/dsk/c0t4d0 /cdrom
mount: /dev/dsk/c0t4d0 on /cdrom : Device busy
# pwd
/cdrom

Try to avoid this

Re: How do you download patches?

Steven Schweda — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:08:11 GMT

> [...] I'm the only user on the system so
> it's impossible for anyone else to be using
> the cdrom drive. [...]

That's hardly a guarantee on a multi-user,
multi-tasking OS. I'd trust output from
"mount" more than I would your assurances.

Re: How do you download patches?

Masud Parvez — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:09:56 GMT

send output of this command

ioscan -fnC disk

Re: How do you download patches?

Deepak Kr — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:35:42 GMT

Zachary,

You can also try using FTP/SFTP for putting patch files or bundles on hp-ux box.

Also If you are trying to use CD/DVD only then I would suggest you to write CD/DVD as Data CD/DVD using your CD/DVD burner software on Windows Machine.

Also,

send output of :
ioscan -fnk |grep -i dvd-rom
e.g
disk 3 0/0/2/1.2.0 sdisk CLAIMED DEVICE HP DVD-ROM 305

Re: How do you download patches?

Dan Bolton — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:52:19 GMT

Zachary,

I think Kumar is on the right track; try using a CD burning application to create the disk. It will likely be more portable.

The method you describe for making the disk is likely using some form of Windows Direct-to-Disk function, which creates the disk using formating that is less universal (multi-session, disk not "closed", etc. if I remember correctly). In fact, with earlier versions of Direct-to-Disk, even the chances of a different Windows box reading a disk created this way was slim at best. Though Direct-to-Disk has improved portability, I would not expect HP-UX to be able to read such a disk.

For more info Google "compact disc standards formats"

Re: How do you download patches?

Zachary Stowell — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:01:54 GMT

>Are you using SAM to do the mount, or what?
>Did you try a manual "mount" command,
>possibly with some options? ("man 1m mount",
>"man fstyp", ...?) What's (relevant) in
>/etc/fstab? If no one is specifying "-F
>cdfs", that could cause some difficulty.

When I used SAM to mount the CD, it gives me that long error message in a pop up window. When I use this command "mount -F cdfs -r /dev/dsk/c0t0d0 /cdrom" on the command line, I only get the "mount: /dev/dsk/c0t0d0 on /cdrom: Device Busy" part.

I haven't created any other users on the system yet, nor have I given the root password to anyone yet. So I know that I'm the only one on the user.

As another poster posted, I'm not trying to mount at the mount point either.

I'm am trying a different CD writing utility and making sure the CD is closed. I have a feeling that the CD not being closed might be the issue.

Re: How do you download patches?

Zachary Stowell — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:31 GMT

Thanks Dan and Kumar. Using a differnt CD writing utility other than the default windows XP one did the trick. I was able to mount the CD and untar that patches.

Re: How do you download patches?

Deepak Kr — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:44:25 GMT

Good to hear that this issue resolved now!!

Cheers!!
Deepak

Re: How do you download patches?

Masud Parvez — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:59:58 GMT

Good work. Now you can close this thread.