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folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

amonamon — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:37:26 GMT

Hello I do have directory with some scripts..created as root user..now I would like to have user /I already added user/ to be able to user rwx those scripts and files in that directory..

here is /etc/passwd:

root:x:0:1:Super-User:/:/bin/bash
newuser:x:60106:1:testtest:/export/home/newuser:/bin/sh

but this newuser can not execute any on scripts in directory but I put as root 777 Permissions to that directory..still not working..

any help...:(

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

Chengchai Theerakalkul — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:03:23 GMT

Hi,
Please login with newuser and cd to directory that you create script file. If newuser cannot please check directory permission. If it can cd to that directory run ./<script_file>. let me know error mesg if it failed.

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

V. Nyga — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:10:02 GMT

HI,

you also need at least 555 permissions to the scripts inside the directory.
Also are there other scripts inside the scripts?

Volkmar

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

amonamon — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:11:24 GMT

script (test.tmp) is simple:

echo testtest> /export/home/newuser/User.cron

cd works perfect..but if I want to execute it I get:

./test.tmp: /export/home/newuser/User.cron: Permission denied

I guess it can not write file into directory..

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

V. Nyga — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:38:22 GMT

Hi again,

>script (test.tmp) is simple:
>echo testtest> /export/home/newuser/User.cron
>
>./test.tmp: /export/home/newuser/User.cron: >Permission denied

So check the permissions of /export/home/newuser/User.cron

V.

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

amonamon — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:51:47 GMT

"So check the permissions of /export/home/newuser/User.cron"

User.cron is a file that can not be created by that script into certani directory..
I do not know why..
Or more clear what should I do with root created directory in order to be able to write into it certain user created files..
and how?

thanks

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

V. Nyga — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:30:30 GMT

Hi again,

you have to open permissions for these directories - the better solution would be to open permissions for a certain group and to assign the needed users to this group.
So you don't have to open permissions for the 'world'.
Can you create a file in this directory by 'touch'?

V.

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

amonamon — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:04:56 GMT

$ touch tempFILE
touch: tempFILE cannot create
$

right...can not create file in directory..:(

how to enable this?

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

V. Nyga — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:51:57 GMT

What does 'll /export/home' and 'll /export/home/newuser' says?
Which group does newuser is in?

V.
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Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

Dennis Handly — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:04:44 GMT

root:x:0:1:Super-User:/:/bin/bash

The first thing you should immediately do is change this back to the proper shell:
root:x:0:1:Super-User:/:/sbin/sh

Root can't have any other shell but this one. If you insist, you can execute your favorite shell once you login.

>./test.tmp: /export/home/newuser/User.cron: Permission denied

To find the permission problem you need to do:
$ id
$ ll /export/home/newuser/User.cron
$ ll -d /export/home/newuser /export/home /export

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

V. Nyga — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:15:48 GMT

Hi Dennis,

>To find the permission problem you need to do:
>$ id

you have to add to do it as 'newuser' ;-P

V.

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

amonamon — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:34:04 GMT

I understood nothing...
why is it problem if my root has any other shell..that has to do nothing with my problem..
as I mentioned /etc/passwd:

root:x:0:1:Super-User:/:/bin/bash
newuser:x:60106:1:testtest:/export/home/newuser:/bin/sh

new user has no right to write in any directory?? why and how to enable newuser to be able to for example to: touch newFILE

that is topic..
THANKS fot time

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

V. Nyga — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:41:21 GMT

Hi again,

so show us
ll of /export/home/newuser /export/home /export

The hint about the root shell was only a good tipp from Dennis when you have a normal designed file system where root could have problems to find /bin if you are in single user mode.
And so maybe will have problems to login ...

V.

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

amonamon — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:50:08 GMT

I am sorry I do not get it what is that I should provide??

ll ??of /export/home/newuser /export/home /export

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

amonamon — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:56:20 GMT

and if I hit

$id

I get this:

$ id
uid=60106(newuser) gid=1(other)

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

V. Nyga — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:50:17 GMT

hi again,

'ls -l' equal ll (small LL)

V.

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

Dennis Handly — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:29:14 GMT

>why is it problem if my root has any other shell. that has to do nothing with my problem.

If you have to go into single user mode or maybe reboot, you'll be hosed.

>new user has no right to write in any directory?? why and how to enable newuser ...

If you set it up that way. Of course it can write to /tmp and /var/tmp.

To be able to write to the user's home directory, it has to be owned by the user and have the proper permissions.

>I do not get it what is that I should provide?? ll ?? of

Those 3 shell commands I mentioned, executed by newuser. "ll -d" of those paths.

>uid=60106(newuser) gid=1(other)

(It is probably a good idea to assign another group name, other than "other".)

Anyway, we need to see those ll(1) commands so we can check the directory/file permissions with the UID of 60106.

>V: you have to add to do it as 'newuser'

(It would be obvious if done incorrectly. :-)

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

V. Nyga — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:06:26 GMT

>Dennis: (It would be obvious if done incorrectly. :-)

Yep but then you'd have to ask again ;-)

amonamon - not a bad tipp from Dennis: change your script to see if you can create a file in /tmp

A strange case - this should be solved in a very short time ... do you know, that you need also read/execute permissions for a directory to go through (yes - I know that's a silly question ...)

Volkmar

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

amonamon — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:57:13 GMT

I do not have newuser directory creaeed..:(

$ ls -ld /export
drwxr-xr-x 3 root sys 1024 Mar 12 09:01 /export
$

$ ls -ld /export/home
drwxr-xr-x 27 root root 2048 Mar 7 14:59 /export/home
$

Re: folert Permissions ...can not execute file..

V. Nyga — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:07:25 GMT

Ahhhhhh!
You can't create a directory with the command echo!
You only can create a file if it doesn't exist.
The directory MUST exist!
Do a mkdir before (either in the script or by root!
If newuser shall create the directory he need write permissions, so /export/home has to have 777 permissions or better change group of this dir to 'other' and use 775 permissions.

Volkmar