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    <title>topic Re: cmruncl error!! in Operating System - HP-UX</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265562#M706571</link>
    <description>thanks a lot...&lt;BR /&gt;sorry carsten, but I exchanged you with kent...&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2004 07:59:45 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Lorenzo Facello</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2004-05-03T07:59:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>cmruncl error!!</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265554#M706557</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;when I try to start my cluster&lt;BR /&gt;cmruncl -v&lt;BR /&gt;I recieve this error&lt;BR /&gt;in attach syslogs errors.&lt;BR /&gt;I checked:&lt;BR /&gt;.rhost     ok&lt;BR /&gt;/etc/hosts ok&lt;BR /&gt;lan conf   ok&lt;BR /&gt;....&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks in advance&lt;BR /&gt;L.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2004 06:08:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265554#M706557</guid>
      <dc:creator>Lorenzo Facello</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-05-03T06:08:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: cmruncl error!!</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265555#M706558</link>
      <description>....error cmruncl&lt;BR /&gt;k360:/etc/cmcluster&amp;gt;cmruncl -v&lt;BR /&gt;Successfully started $SGLBIN/cmcld on k360.&lt;BR /&gt;Successfully started $SGLBIN/cmcld on k260.&lt;BR /&gt;cmruncl  : Waiting for cluster to form............&lt;BR /&gt;cmruncl  : Cluster did not form.  Check the syslog file for information.&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2004 06:09:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265555#M706558</guid>
      <dc:creator>Lorenzo Facello</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-05-03T06:09:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: cmruncl error!!</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265556#M706559</link>
      <description>Lorenzo --&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have seen this problem when the cluster was set up to autostart and the autostart failed for some reason.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;While it was still trying to autostart a cmruncl was run and you had two copies of cmcld trying to run at the same time.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What I would suggest is to wait 10 minutes (your timeout is 600 seconds) and then manually check to see if cmcld is running on each node with:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;ps -ef | grep cmcld&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If after 10 to 15 minutes, this is running on only one node, reboot that node.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If its running on both nodes then do a : cmviewcl and see if the cluster finally started.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If its not running on either node then do :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;cmruncl &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best regards,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Kent M. Ostby&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2004 06:23:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265556#M706559</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kent Ostby</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-05-03T06:23:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: cmruncl error!!</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265557#M706560</link>
      <description>Hi Kent,&lt;BR /&gt;if I type&lt;BR /&gt;ps -ef | grep cmcld&lt;BR /&gt;...nothing!! on both node&lt;BR /&gt;also after 10 min&lt;BR /&gt;Regds&lt;BR /&gt;L.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2004 06:29:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265557#M706560</guid>
      <dc:creator>Lorenzo Facello</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-05-03T06:29:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: cmruncl error!!</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265558#M706561</link>
      <description>To resolve the problem you simply need to follow the instructions given in syslog that you attached: &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Jan 26 10:44:16 k360 cmcld: To recover from this situation&lt;BR /&gt;Jan 26 10:44:17 k360 cmcld: reboot this system:&lt;BR /&gt;Jan 26 10:44:17 k360 cmcld:     shutdown -r    (stops package components)&lt;BR /&gt;Jan 26 10:44:18 k360 cmclconfd[2897]: Unable to lookup cluster information in CDB: No such file or directory&lt;BR /&gt;Jan 26 10:44:18 k360 cmcld: After ensuring that no package applications&lt;BR /&gt;Jan 26 10:44:18 k360 cmcld: or resources are active, you can override this data&lt;BR /&gt;Jan 26 10:44:19 k360 cmcld: integrity protection by issuing the following commands&lt;BR /&gt;Jan 26 10:44:19 k360 cmcld: (which allow the daemon to start without rebooting):&lt;BR /&gt;Jan 26 10:44:20 k360 cmcld:     rm /var/adm/cmcluster/.cm_start_time&lt;BR /&gt;Jan 26 10:44:20 k360 cmcld:     touch /var/adm/cmcluster/.cm_start_time&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The reason for this problem is that you probably ran a 1-node cluster before and then issued a reboot. The important point is that SG was not halted cleanly (cmhaltnode, cmhaltcl) when it was a 1-node cluster.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Because SG's safety timer mechanism is disabled for 1-node clusters (no TOC is initiated anymore when cmcld doesn't run), there is no way for SG to determine if packages were halted cleanly before it is started next time. Suppose the following situation: &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;SG is running on node A, the other node is halted. All packages and volume groups are activated on the active SG node A. Now cmcld aborts with an error, and the volume groups are still active. Because this is a 1-node cluster, node A doesn't perform a TOC, i.e. the application are still alive. If you could restart the cluster on node A, this could cause data corruption, because you would restart a package that is already running. Therefore SG asks you to doublecheck that all packages and resources are down. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You shouldn't see the problem if you always halt your cluster nodes cleanly with cmhaltnode and cmhaltcl.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Carsten</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2004 06:40:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265558#M706561</guid>
      <dc:creator>Carsten Krege</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-05-03T06:40:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: cmruncl error!!</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265559#M706564</link>
      <description>ok kent,&lt;BR /&gt;I understand... but&lt;BR /&gt;can you explain me which and what kind of&lt;BR /&gt;process still remain active???&lt;BR /&gt;also becouse I've already tried this morning&lt;BR /&gt;to shutdown -r the nodes... and nothing changes.&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks a lot&lt;BR /&gt;Lorenzo</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2004 06:48:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265559#M706564</guid>
      <dc:creator>Lorenzo Facello</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-05-03T06:48:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: cmruncl error!!</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265560#M706566</link>
      <description>Lorenzo --&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Given Carsten's explanation, its not a matter of processes, its a matter of a setting in the SG configuration.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You need to run these commands that were listed in your syslog.log file and then do cmruncl after that:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;rm /var/adm/cmcluster/.cm_start_time&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;touch /var/adm/cmcluster/.cm_start_time&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;then:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;cmruncl&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best regards,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Kent M. Ostby&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2004 07:10:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265560#M706566</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kent Ostby</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-05-03T07:10:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: cmruncl error!!</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265561#M706568</link>
      <description>Ok, to be very clear what needs to be done:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;1) reboot&lt;BR /&gt;2) rm /var/adm/cmcluster/.cm_start_time&lt;BR /&gt;3) touch /var/adm/cmcluster/.cm_start_time&lt;BR /&gt;4) cmruncl&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Step 1) can be ommitted if you're 100% sure that your applications are not running and the VGs are not active.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;SG does not check for any running processes. The file .cm_start_time only contains the start time of the cluster, e.g.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;# xd .cm_start_time &lt;BR /&gt;0000000 4091 fe9c 000d 4232&lt;BR /&gt;0000008&lt;BR /&gt;# adb&lt;BR /&gt;adb&amp;gt; PA-32 adb ($h help $q quit)&lt;BR /&gt;adb&amp;gt;0x4091fe9c=Y&lt;BR /&gt;adb&amp;gt;            2004 Apr 30 09:22:04&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If the file has nothing in it, the last thing the cmcld daemon did, was to shutdown cleanly. If there is a timestamp in it, SG checks if the time in the file is later than the system boot time. If it is, SG does complain, because it means that cmcld aborted and the system has not been booted (your situation).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hope, the mechanism becomes clearer.. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Carsten</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2004 07:53:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265561#M706568</guid>
      <dc:creator>Carsten Krege</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-05-03T07:53:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: cmruncl error!!</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265562#M706571</link>
      <description>thanks a lot...&lt;BR /&gt;sorry carsten, but I exchanged you with kent...&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2004 07:59:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/cmruncl-error/m-p/3265562#M706571</guid>
      <dc:creator>Lorenzo Facello</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-05-03T07:59:45Z</dc:date>
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