topic Re: Logging on with posix shell. in Operating System - HP-UX

Logging on with posix shell.

Brian W Herriman — Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:54:54 GMT

Hello, I have a few old systems that still use 9.05.
One group of users trying to logon using the posix shell cannot get onto the system. The login hangs when it tries to execute the /usr/vue/bin/vuelogin. Can someone please help me with this problem.

Re: Logging on with posix shell.

U.SivaKumar_2 — Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:00:50 GMT

Hi,
Does the problem exists for only POSIX shell ?.

regards,
U.SivaKumar

Re: Logging on with posix shell.

Brian W Herriman — Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:05:02 GMT

Yes everyone else can logon just fine.

Re: Logging on with posix shell.

Alex Glennie — Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:27:35 GMT

So the problem is users attempt to login via vue and if their shell is set to posix the login screen hangs ?

Qu's ... does the problem occur if they telnet onto the affected system ? Do you get errors to the console or syslog.log ?

Anything unusual or changed recently in their .profiles ?

You may like to try adding set -x in the users $HOME/.vueprofile and then attempt to login via vue and then see if any additional info is in $HOME/.vue/startlog.

Re: Logging on with posix shell.

Peter Kloetgen — Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:41:23 GMT

Hi Brian,

did you check, if the POSIX shell is found? Try the following command:

whereis sh

Can you start a posix shell manually?

sh

Allways stay on the bright side of life!

Peter

Re: Logging on with posix shell.

Frank Slootweg — Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:06:29 GMT

Which path name do you use for the POSIX shell? (On pre-10.X, the POSIX shell is *not* /usr[/bin/]sh. I forgot what it was. See the *9.X* sh(1) manual page for details.)

Re: Logging on with posix shell.

Bill Hassell — Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:06:32 GMT

Perhaps I can help: there is no POSIX shell for anything prior to 10.00 HP-UX. The shell called: /bin/sh is the Bourne shell and will have big problems with ksh (or other POSIX compliant shell constructs like bash). 9.05 has:

/bin/sh - Bourne
/bin/ksh - Korn shell
/bin/csh - C shell

Re: Logging on with posix shell.

Frank Slootweg — Thu, 11 Jul 2002 04:13:43 GMT

Bill, thanks for the correction! That is what I get for believing the documentation instead of my memory! :-)

I remembered/was_convinced that 9.X did not have a POSIX shell (i.e. like you mentioned), but because the Question Author mentioned the POSIX shell on 9.05, I checked the 10.X Release Notes. They (strongly) imply that pre-10.X had a POSIX shell, so I took the documentation over my memory. Wrong, wrong! :-)

In hindsight, the documentation was not incorrect, but 'just' confusing/vague/etc.. ("Yeah, Frank! Whatever you say, Frank!" :-)).

So, now I know what "RTFM" *really* means!

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