topic Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products in Operating System - HP-UX

Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Marius Botha — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:03:46 GMT

In the /var/adm/sw/products directory I have 719 files, which mainly are PH files (patches). If I do a du -sk on the products mountpoint I get 33668 back - which is wasted space to me.
Now, I have done a listing of installed patches on my system - what is the best way to remove the PH files from this directory, should I use rm or is there a sw command to remove/verify what I want to do. Ps: I have recently taken over this system, so no idea what was done on it in the past.
Cheers

Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Stefan Farrelly — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:06:14 GMT

The only way to safely remove stuff from /var/adm/sw/ is to; swmodify -x patch_commit=true \*

This will remove all old patches and free up a lot of space in /var/adm/sw, but not much from the products directory. Do NOT rm anything under the /var/adm/sw tree or else you risk corrupting Software Distributors IPD and making future swinstall's impossible.

Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Trond Haugen — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:13:31 GMT

Another alternative is using 'cleanup -c 1'.
If you have upgraded from 10.20 you can also run 'cleanup -i'.
cleanup is available thru a patch.

Regards,
Trond

Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Zeev Schultz — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:16:24 GMT

Don't agree on that.The safest way to clean
is to use cleanup utility (man cleanup).In 10.20 install PHCO_20824 (both workstations and servers).

Zeev

HP RCE

Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Marius Botha — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:22:29 GMT

I am running HP-UX 11 and it is across K-class and N-class servers respectively.

Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Stefan Farrelly — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:35:55 GMT

FYI, the cleanup utility simply uses the swmodify -x command I listed earlier - its the same thing.

Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Marius Botha — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:38:10 GMT

Stefan,

Is cleanup only to be used on a system migrated from 10.20 to 11? Can I use this on a system which was initially a 11 build?

Cheers
marius

Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Stefan Farrelly — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:41:24 GMT

The cleanup utility exists on 10.20, 11.0 and 11.11. Go ahead and use it - it has more options and does extra checking so I guess its the preferred way to reduce space in /var/adm/sw

Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Marius Botha — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:48:24 GMT

Thanks all, I will try cleanup tomorrow at the office and assign points.

Cheers
marius

Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Zeev Schultz — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:51:33 GMT

Just check that you have SD cumulative patch
higher or equal to PHCO_23966 (11.0,fixed in 11i).There was an issue of conflicts btw cleanup and SD.

Zeev

HP RCE

Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Bill Hassell — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:37:33 GMT

A note as to why all the space is taken up: Occasionally, a patch is recalled or needs to be removed and the previous patch left in it's place. This is quite complicated in some flavors of Unix, but with the Software Distributor utilities (swinstall, swremove) and the /var/adm/sw directories, it is quite easy.

rather than be concerned about the space, create another logical volume dedicated just to the products and software that has been installed. Then move everything from /var/adm/sw to the new location and create a new mountpoint as /var/adm/sw.

NOTE: Simply rm'ing the files will terminate your ability to load patches and/or new applications using swinstall! This is not a good situation at all.

Re: Wanting to clear /var/adm/sw/products

Trond Haugen — Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:43:40 GMT

Just to add to Bills comment. With cleanup in 10.x you could remove all patch-backups whereas in 11.x it will not remove the last. There is a good reason for that. Removing the last would leave you with no posibilty to go back (swremove a patch).

Regards,
Trond