topic Re: difference between /usr/bin/sh and /sbin/sh in Operating System - HP-UX

difference between /usr/bin/sh and /sbin/sh

ralf klausch — Fri, 08 Dec 2000 14:33:48 GMT

Hello,

can anybody tell me the difference between:
-r-xr-xr-x 2 bin bin 221184 Jan 20 2000 /usr/bin/sh

-r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 421888 Jan 20 2000 /sbin/sh

make this any sence ?

thanks in advance

regards

ralf

Re: difference between /usr/bin/sh and /sbin/sh

Alan Riggs — Fri, 08 Dec 2000 14:39:11 GMT

Shells under /usr are dynamicaly linked.

/sbin/sh is statically linked so that it will be available situations where non / filesystems are unavailable/umounted. that is why it should be the default root shell.

Re: difference between /usr/bin/sh and /sbin/sh

Tony Constantine_1 — Fri, 08 Dec 2000 14:42:38 GMT

/sbin/sh is staticlly link (libraries are linked into the binary)

where as /usr/sbin/sh is dynamic (no libraries)thus it is smaller

you need /sbin/sh in singler user mode as /usr is not mounted thus no libraries are available

Re: difference between /usr/bin/sh and /sbin/sh

Steffi Jones_1 — Fri, 08 Dec 2000 14:44:10 GMT

Hello,

just in addition to Alan's reply:

If you boot into single user mode you will not have /usr mounted nor will you have access to the libraries.

Make sure, that you have /sbin/sh for root in the /etc/passwd file. If you happen to enter /usr/sbin/sh in there your system won't boot up, because it will never find a shell.

Steffi Jones

Re: difference between /usr/bin/sh and /sbin/sh

ralf klausch — Fri, 08 Dec 2000 14:48:19 GMT

thank you all for you fast response.

ralf

Re: difference between /usr/bin/sh and /sbin/sh

CHRIS_ANORUO — Fri, 08 Dec 2000 14:49:04 GMT

The files in /sbin are used most for minimal system boot up processing when //usr, /var, /opt, etc are not mounted. Progammes under /usr/bin are used when the system is in a run state greater that 1.
Programmes in /usr directory are mostly called and used by the system in a stable state. You will notice that, the programmes in /usr/sbin are linked to /sbin.

Re: difference between /usr/bin/sh and /sbin/sh

Wodisch — Sun, 10 Dec 2000 02:02:40 GMT

Hello Klaus,

there is another difference, for the reasons mentioned
above:
the "/sbin/sh" does NOT start with a history, for the
simple reason of not writing to the file system you might
be fsck-ing in single-user-mode (root-fs, that is).
In multi-user-mode you can safely switch on history.
HTH,
Wodisch