topic Re: CDE start desktop in Operating System - HP-UX

CDE start desktop

Lonny Balderston — Thu, 12 May 2005 13:08:41 GMT

I am running Kea! X on my PC and attempting run CDE. I guessed at the command to start: /usr/bin/X11/hpterm -display %DISPLAY% -e /usr/dt/bin/Xsession & (as root). This does light up CDE, but after the blue copyright screen, I get "help view" and "file manager" windows, but no desktop. What is the correct CDE X-command, or what do I need to configure to get a desktop? Now no file manager window, error window "file manager open directory error - /home/root/~ does not exist". Thank you.

Re: CDE start desktop

Steven E. Protter — Thu, 12 May 2005 13:35:19 GMT

Make sure on the server the DISPLAY variable is set to point at your Windows PC.

DISPLAY=192.168.0.15:0.0
export DISPLAY

Use the actual IP address of the PC.

ipconfig to get it.

You need to create a folder called /home/root because the CDE or X client is configured to create temporary files there.

SEP

Re: CDE start desktop

Ermin Borovac — Fri, 13 May 2005 02:47:03 GMT

Not familiar with this X emulator s/w, but you should be able to configure it to do "direct query" to the server. This should get you CDE login prompt so you'll be able to login and start your applications.

Re: CDE start desktop

Artyom Voronchihin — Fri, 13 May 2005 04:36:28 GMT

Attempt to start it by command
/usr/bin/X11/hpterm -display $DISPLAY -e /usr/dt/bin/dtsession

Re: CDE start desktop

Christian Deutsch_1 — Thu, 19 May 2005 02:46:57 GMT

Dear Mahlon,

May I recommend for you to try using RealVNC? RealVNC is free and survives every PC reboot! All you need to do is get a VNC server running on your HP-UX system and then you can access this VNC server using a VNC client running "anywhere". My VNC server has been running uninterrupted and flawlessly for almost four months now! I've been using it Monday-Friday for about six hours a day, memory is currently at 170MB, which is very good, considering that it has been running for almost four months already.

Kind regards, Christian

Re: CDE start desktop

Laurent Laperrousaz — Sun, 22 May 2005 08:33:18 GMT

I use Reflection X (from WRQ) to start X sessions on HPUX boxes with no problem.
The initial command line is:
/usr/bin/X11/hpterm -fn 6x13 -sb -ls -display %IP#% -name %T% &

can you try this? (adapted to your Kea!X)

Re: CDE start desktop

Lonny Balderston — Wed, 25 May 2005 11:34:28 GMT

Thank you for the responses. Still can't get CDE to run properly. I am unclear on the command to run in PC Xwindows hpterm that will start CDE. Command "/usr/bin/X11/hpterm -display %DISPLAY% -e /usr/dt/bin/dtsession" results in hpterm window, which in turn runs CDE Help Viewer window. RealVNC does not solve the problem, as my HP is not running CDE on the console. Command "/usr/bin/X11/hpterm -fn 6x13 -sb -ls -display %IP#% -name %T% &" results in a hpterm window. To recap, what I am looking for is the command to enter from PC Xwindows hpterm that will light up the CDE desktop from the HP-UX server. Thank you.

Re: CDE start desktop

Rick Garland — Wed, 25 May 2005 11:46:25 GMT

Sounds as if not all of the CDE applications are set to run automatically.

From the /usr/contrib/bin/X11 directory is a file called 'dr_dt' This will look through the CDE configs and report any problems.

Re: CDE start desktop

Christian Deutsch_1 — Fri, 27 May 2005 03:37:27 GMT

Dear Mahlon,

1. Well, I don't get money for recommending RealVNC so that's not a problem. Since you want a solution just for the record I'll be more precise how you can make VNC work for you:

1.1. Make sure you have this line in /etc/rc.config.d/xfs: "RUN_X_FONT_SERVER=1"

1.2. Here is how I start my VNC server on HP-UX:

(Xvnc :1 -ac -query localhost -geometry 1600x1200 -depth 24 -fp tcp/myhpuxsystem:7000 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/passwd&)

1.3. To start CDE in your VNC server:

1.3.1. export DISPLAY=myhpuxsystem:1

1.3.2. /sbin/init.d/dtlogin.rc start

1.3.3. The important point is if you want CDE, your dtlogin process must be running. File /etc/rc.config.d/desktop must have the line "DESKTOP=CDE" in it. On my system I use Gnome, so I have DESKTOP=GNOME. If you want to use Gnome I can you some more tips on that. The -query option to Xvnc will query the dtlogin (or Gnome gdm) to display the desktop for you.

2. Reflection X: assuming your dtlogin process is running (see above) you can use the XDMCP method to get access to your CDE desktop from your PC. I wouldn't try getting to CDE from an hpterm. Reflection X knows XDMCP out of the box.

Let us know how you get on, Christian

Re: CDE start desktop

Lonny Balderston — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:50:24 GMT

OK, we've got CDE running now - thank you all for your input. dt_dr is clean now (thanks). However, I do not feel we have this set up right on the PC side. Using Kea!X, we are running rexec of hpterm -e Xsession (as described in the original post), and it sounds from the last post like we could be running XDMCP-direct. Also, we are getting frequent XDMCP timeout messages. Thank you.