topic Re: No CDE login screen in Operating System - HP-UX

No CDE login screen

Ian Timms — Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:42:46 GMT

I tried to swap the graphics card on a C3000 m/c. The system didn't recognise the card I tried, so I put the FX4 back. Now when the m/c boots it stops at the console login (no cde login window). I've looked around but can't identify what's changed.

Any ideas?

thanks
Ian Timms

Re: No CDE login screen

T G Manikandan — Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:50:53 GMT

Run
/usr/contrib/bin/X11/dr_dt

and check /var/adm/Xerrors for the problems

Re: No CDE login screen

Pete Randall — Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:54:43 GMT

Ian,

Examine the /etc/rc.log for errors during the transition to run level 3.

Pete

Re: No CDE login screen

Alex Glennie — Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:42:09 GMT

try isolating the problem

/sbin/init 2

/usr/bin/X11/X :0

errors ?

maybe devise files ? ...in which case try a rmsf /dev/*crt*
followed by a insf -evd framebuf

Re: No CDE login screen

Ian Timms — Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:58:37 GMT

Tried:

#/usr/contrib/bin/X11/dr_dt
#more /var/adm/Xerrors - no file!

Examined the /etc/rc.log for errors during the transition to run level 3 - none.

#/sbin/init 2
#/usr/bin/X11/X :0

Screen went grey, no interaction ossible.
Powered off/on.

#rmsf /dev/*crt*
#nsf -evd framebuf

It created crt device files. Rebooted.
Still no CDE login screen.

Extra info for ya:
When I login as root, I get a:
'TERM set to ITE_x128y49' message.

For my improved understanding:
Where are the filesets for starting with CDE?
Which file gives the echo:

'...starting CDE ..... <0>

Any other ideas?

thanks
Ian

Re: No CDE login screen

Michael Schulte zur Sur — Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:05:51 GMT

Hi,

the file should be in /sbin/init.d
do a grep CDE * there and you should find the file. I think, it should be dtlogin.rc

greetings,

Michael

Re: No CDE login screen

Stefan Schulz — Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:10:49 GMT

Hi,

have a look at /sbin/init.d/dtlogin.rc. This is the startscript that will start the CDE login process.

The message you see is from /usr/dt/bin/dtlogin which is started in the script mentioned above.

Hope this helps

Regards Stefan

Re: No CDE login screen

Ian Timms — Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:29:35 GMT

I've had a look at:

/sbin/init.d/dtlogin.rc

No nearer the answer.

Regards
Ian

Re: No CDE login screen

Alex Glennie — Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:22:00 GMT

The xserver and graphics card are fine, CDE appears hosed.

ps -ef Â¦ grep dtlogin ?> If it's running : check for either /etc/dt/config/Xservers if it exists ensure last line reads :

* Local local@console /usr/bin/X11/X :0

If the file does not exist copy it from /usr/dt/config/ and edit accordingly if needbe.

/sbin/init 2 then back up to 3 ...result ?

Also check /var/dt/Xerrors !

can you also detail the dr_dt output.

thn

Re: No CDE login screen

Robert DJ — Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:41:27 GMT

Hi Ian,

Run: /usr/contrib/bin/X11/dr_dt

At the end of the output from this script a summary will appear:

Dr_dt finished with:

[num] ERROR messages
[num] WARNING messages

The ERROR and WARNING messages must be resolved before CDE will run properly.

NOTE: Exception to WARNING messages:

The /usr/contrib/bin/X11/dr_dt script checks for exact permission matches. If the permission on /etc/hosts, are 644 (rw-r--r--), a WARNING will be given that permissions should be 444 (r--r--r--). Messages indicating that the system has greater than require permissions can usually be ignored.

Check for errors in the CDE log files:

NOTE: You may want to check the date on each file to verify that it is current.

/var/dt/Xerrors

$HOME/.dt/errorlog

$HOME/.dt/startlog

Compare the $HOME/.dt/startlog against that of a working user or to that of this user on a working system. The contents should be similar to the following:
--- /usr/dt/bin/Xsession starting...
--- Xsession started by dtlogin
--- sourcing /root/.dtprofile...
--- sourcing /usr/dt/config/Xsession.d/0010.dtpaths...
--- sourcing /usr/dt/config/Xsession.d/0020.dtims...
--- sourcing /usr/dt/config/Xsession.d/0030.dttmpdir...
--- sourcing /usr/dt/config/Xsession.d/0040.xmbind...
--- sourcing /usr/dt/config/Xsession.d/0060.srcsysenv...
--- starting /usr/dt/bin/dthello &
--- starting /usr/dt/bin/dtsearchpath -ksh
--- starting /usr/dt/bin/dtappgather &
--- execing /usr/dt/bin/dtsession...
NOTE: Verify that "execing /usr/dt/bin/dtsession" appears near the end of this $HOME/.dt/startlog file. This line indicates that the start-up sequence is not hanging on a specific start-up script.

Thanx & Regards,

Roby

Re: No CDE login screen

Ian Timms — Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:56:08 GMT

Alex,

ps -ef Â¦ grep dtlogin
dtlogin is running.

/etc/dt/config/Xservers exists. last line is:
* Local local@console /usr/bin/X11/X :0
(see attahced)

/sbin/init 2 then back up to 3 result:
stops/starts nfs server,X print server & CDE login server but still no CDE login screen.

/var/dt/Xerrors is a zero length file.

The dr_dt output attached.

I've had quick look at the file. No Errors just warnings, mostly about permissions. Had a quick look at a working m/c and the permission issues are the same.

What next?
Thanks for your help.
I

Re: No CDE login screen

Ian Timms — Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:19:23 GMT

Roby,

root user .dt directory (corrupt m/c)combined start/error files attached. There's some problem there but I don't know what it is.

Thanks
Ian

Re: No CDE login screen

Alex Glennie — Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:21:13 GMT

Got me thinking on this one ...

try a /sbin/init.d/dtlogin.rc stop folowed by a start ?

anything in syslog.log, bdf no full fs ? Have you checked networking ... can you ping the system ? does hostname resolution resolve correctly ?

does ioscan show the graphics card as claimed ?

run graphinfo /dev/crt0 ?

Re: No CDE login screen

Steve Post — Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:48:02 GMT

I did not mess with the guts of the box. But I had these symtoms when my keyboard was broken. I swapped out the keyboard, and rebooted. I got X windows back.

So perhaps your keyboard got busted? Or perhaps it is not SEEN by HPUX in the same spot it was before?

It's worth a shot if you have spare keyboard.

steve

Re: No CDE login screen

Fabio Ettore — Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:01:59 GMT

Hi Ian,

you should to install the latest CDE, Xserver and X/Motif patches.
Sometimes these strange problems about CDE can be solved by installing latest patches about X environment.
I even know a similar case which was solved by O.S. reinstall and patches. Of course, it is an extreme solution, I hope that you won't be forced to this action.

Best regards,
Ettore

Re: No CDE login screen

Ian Timms — Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:32:21 GMT

/sbin/init.d/dtlogin.rc stop then start - no change.

syslog.log has something about a monitor issue (see attached).

bdf: no probs.

I can ping the system. (remsh ok).
hostname resolves correctly.

does ioscan show the graphics card as claimed ?

run graphinfo /dev/crt0 see attached.

Re: No CDE login screen

James Lynch — Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:25:36 GMT

Did you change the system time recently? I Have seen instances where moving the time ahead into the future would cause CDE not to come up.

JL