topic Re: Setting up NTP in Operating System - HP-UX

Setting up NTP

Allan Pincus — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:56:18 GMT

All,

I have a small HP-UX network, about 10 machines. I use /etc/hosts resolution rather than DNS.

I'm trying to turn on xntpd to use the internal clock of one of my machines as a server, and the rest as clients.

I edited the /etc/ntp.conf file with the lines:

server 127.127.1.1

and drift file set to:

/var/adm/ntp.drift

I start the xntpd and get the error message:

"ntpdate[10610]: no server suitable for synchronization found"

I grep out the daemon, and find it, but the ntp.drift log never updates.

What am I doing wrong?

- Allan

Re: Setting up NTP

Sajid_1 — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:02:15 GMT

Did you check the output of:
# ntpq -p
This should show your ntp server's name at the client system.
Check and make sure that your systems resolves the name properly. Check the file /etc/rc.config.d/netdaemons and see if everything is enabled and set properly.

gl,

Re: Setting up NTP

James R. Ferguson — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:08:49 GMT

Hi Allan:

If the difference in time between your source and the servers that are attempting to synchronize to it is more than 1000 seconds, xntpd will die without synchronization. In this case you will need to manually adjust the date on the server first to minimize the delta and then restart xntpd.

The drift file will not appear to update for sometime so this is not a very reliable measure of xntp activity.

Rather, use 'ntpq -p' to query the status of the xntpd daemon.

Regards!

...JRF...

Re: Setting up NTP

Rick Garland — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:09:25 GMT

Check out the site www.eecis.udel.edu/ntp. There is a wealth of info there.

First glance would indicate that you are not going outside to a stratum 1 server to get correct time.

Re: Setting up NTP

steven Burgess_2 — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:17:18 GMT

Hi Allan

Here's a doc regarding the output of ntpq -p

http://support4.itrc.hp.com/service/cki/docDisplay.do?docLocale=en_US&docId=200000048175248

HTH

Steve

Re: Setting up NTP

Sajid_1 — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 19:20:05 GMT

This document explains the step to build a ntp server:
http://support1.itrc.hp.com/service/cki/docDisplay.do?docLocale=en_US&docId=200000047992570

Doc ID - KBRC00000415

Re: Setting up NTP

Sajid_1 — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 19:21:56 GMT

hi again:

This document will tell you the steps for setting up a NTP server and client:
http://support1.itrc.hp.com/service/cki/docDisplay.do?docLocale=en_US&docId=200000053307950

Doc ID - 1100390400

Re: Setting up NTP

John Bolene — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 19:36:47 GMT

pretty darn easy to do using Sam

Re: Setting up NTP

Allan Pincus — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:44:07 GMT

So I got my NTP running, or so I believe. thanks for all your help (especially the "pretty easy in sam" - duh - always have to do things the hardway).

I ran ntpq -p on my client, looks good. But when I run "date" on my server and "date" on my client, my clocks are 6 minutes apart and have been for the last 15 minutes.

I thought my client would sync with my server.

Something is still not right.

Can someone interpret the output of the NTP for me? I went through the man pages quickly, and there's a lot of stuff.

Thanks!

- Allan

Re: Setting up NTP

Mike_305 — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:00:36 GMT

Hi,

You can update time manually using command:

ntpdate

Thanks,

Mike

Re: Setting up NTP

A. Clay Stephenson — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:06:38 GMT

THe whole point of NTP is that it will not sync by 'stepping' but rather by slewing. Let it adjust the time at it's own pace.

Re: Setting up NTP

Bill Hassell — Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:51:53 GMT

Very important: you never want the date to suddenly jump, especially with databases running--you may have to deal with broken links and other corruption.

6 minutes difference will take a minimum of 3 hours to adjust. Be sure you monitor syslog for any errors. Do NOT use ntpdate unless you aren't running anything--it is as bad as simply changing the time using the Unix date command.

Re: Setting up NTP

Sajid_1 — Thu, 29 Aug 2002 01:41:47 GMT

hello,

you can give multiple ntp servers in the config file, if you need the ntp to sync to an accurate time value. You may have to wait for some time after you have configured the ntp clients, depend up on the network traffic. Apply all patches, check the log files and if needed add entry for ntpdate in the crontab file.

Re: Setting up NTP

Sajid_1 — Thu, 29 Aug 2002 02:10:40 GMT

This document explains how ntp works:
http://support2.itrc.hp.com/service/cki/docDisplay.do?docLocale=en_US&docId=200000049138043

Doc ID - S3100006003

Re: Setting up NTP

Allan Pincus — Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:50:40 GMT

All,

Thanks everyone. I came into work this morning, and sure enough, my first client was in sync with my server. So the "slew" comment was entirely accurate (10pts!).

My systems are all for semiconductor test equipment, not database driven, so the timestamp is less important, +/-10 minutes, but there have been times where the date was completely wrong. This will help.

I did use the ntpdate command (after stopping xntpd) and it sync'd the client just as expected.

This is a really strong newsgroup!!!

- Allan