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Possible ksh ${parameter##pattern} substring?

A. Daniel King_1 — Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:47:27 GMT

Is there a way to combine

${parameter##pattern}

and

${parameter%%pattern}

to pull out a substring? As in something like:

${parameter##pattern%%pattern}

or

${parameter##pattern:parameter%%pattern}

I've seen the forum item:

http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0x69246049dbb6d611abdb0090277a778c,00.html

And indeed,

$a=example
$echo ${a:5:6}
le

Does seem to do as expected. Any thoughts, gurus?

Re: Possible ksh ${parameter##pattern} substring?

A. Daniel King_1 — Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:50:55 GMT

Sorry!

I just realized that for the last:

$echo ${a:5:6}

I was in bash! The question still applies, though - and extra points for those who can tell me how to do this in _bash_ as well!

Re: Possible ksh ${parameter##pattern} substring?

John Poff — Sat, 21 Dec 2002 04:56:07 GMT

Hi,

I played with the pattern substitutions in both ksh and bash, and I don't think they will work as you show them. They can't be combined on a single line, but you can split them into two lines. Something like this will work:

MYSTRING=mystring.txt
echo "MYSTRING=$MYSTRING"
MYSTRING=${MYSTRING##my}
MYSTRING=${MYSTRING{%%.txt}
echo "MYSTRING=$MYSTRING"

will return

MYSTRING=mystring.txt
MYSTRING=string

You could probably write a function where you could pass the parameter (variable) and the patterns to it, and have it return the result to you. The easier way would be to use 'awk' as shown in the thread you listed.

This is one of those examples where you are trying to do something that is hard to do in ksh or bash, but is probably quite easy to do in Perl.

JP

Re: Possible ksh ${parameter##pattern} substring?

Vincent Stedema — Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:21:48 GMT

Hi,

${${parameter##pattern}%%pattern}

Don't know if it works, but you could give it a try...

Regards,

Vincent

Re: Possible ksh ${parameter##pattern} substring?

John Poff — Sat, 21 Dec 2002 20:03:32 GMT

Hi Vincent,

I had tried your suggestion and ksh didn't like it:

#!/usr/bin/ksh

# pattern.ksh

MYSTRING=mystring.txt
echo "MYSTRING=$MYSTRING"

MYSTRING=${MYSTRING##my}
STRING1=${${MYSTRING##my}%%.txt}
echo "STRING1=$STRING1"

Which gives this result:

>./pattern.ksh
MYSTRING=mystring.txt
./pattern.ksh[9]: STRING1=${${MYSTRING##my}%%.txt}: bad substitution

I tried it with some quote marks and it didn't like those either:

STRING1=${"${MYSTRING##my}"%%.txt}

./pattern.ksh[9]: STRING1=${"${MYSTRING##my}"%%.txt}: bad substitution

JP

Re: Possible ksh ${parameter##pattern} substring?

Vincent Stedema — Sun, 22 Dec 2002 12:32:20 GMT

John: Yeah, I know. Bash doesn't like it either... The problem is with the substitution: it returns the value of the substitution, instead of a variable with a substituted value.

Daniel:

Here's a multi-line solution which doesn't use temp variables, except for the patterns...

p1="pattern1"
p2="pattern2"
${parameter:${#p1}:$(( ${#parameter} - ${#p1} - ${#p2} ))}

Proof that it works:

vincent@magnolia ~
$ a="shellprogrammingisneat"

vincent@magnolia ~
$ p1="shell"

vincent@magnolia ~
$ p2="neat"

vincent@magnolia ~
$ echo ${a:${#p1}:$(( ${#a} - ${#p1} - ${#p2}))}
programmingis

Don't know if this what you're looking for, though.

Regards,

Vincent

Re: Possible ksh ${parameter##pattern} substring?

John Wright_1 — Mon, 23 Dec 2002 01:27:16 GMT

Hi,

Here's a 1 liner that works for ksh :-)

$ a=shellprogrammingisneat
$ b=${a##shell} echo ${b%%neat}
programmingis
$

Cheers,
JW.

Re: Possible ksh ${parameter##pattern} substring?

A. Daniel King_1 — Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:30:15 GMT

I've actually done some timings on shell-level extraction versus awk extractions.

awk seems to be faster in most cases.

I was interested, though, in pushing the limits of the shell, and I appreciate the thoughts you have expressed.

I was a little surprised, though. Somewhere I had read that, as a rule, calling external programs slows down a script, and that shell internals should be, generally speaking, faster.

Live and learn, I suppose.