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    <title>topic Re: Large changes for Steven E Protter (SEP) in Operating System - HP-UX</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/large-changes-for-steven-e-protter-sep/m-p/4900400#M827643</link>
    <description>Enjoy the adventure!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Israel is lucky to get you.</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:34:57 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Robert Bennett_3</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-06-22T11:34:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Large changes for Steven E Protter (SEP)</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/large-changes-for-steven-e-protter-sep/m-p/4900339#M827582</link>
      <description>I have some big changes coming up and need to share. Last July, for my wife's career prospects, and for the good of my family I made the decision to Emmigrate to Israel.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;That means leaving my job, though with VPN that was not strictly necessary. The situation there caused me a great deal of mental grief and stress and after 14 1/2 years, it was time to make a change anyway.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Since last July I've kind of led two lives. It takes a year to do what needs to be done to move ones life from one continent to another. I was not comfortable notifying my employer of my plans for fear that I would not be able to do meaningful work once my plans were public.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;In short the system prevented meaningful work and my plans had nothing to do with that.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;In preparation for this move, I spoke to some people and kept the news from others. I talked with Pete Randall, his wife, who asked lots of hard questions, Rita Workman, Patrick Walleck, at last years HP World convention.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I also contacted Dan, Cheryl and Bill Hassell and a few others for various reasons.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I wanted to publically thank all of the above for their help. I found it stressful telling some and not telling others.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm going to Israel and I think my life will be better.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Eran Maor, is a wonderful, friendly kind person, who happens to work for HP's Response Center in Israel. I've already had the chance to meet with him. His advice on the HP-UX employment market in Israel is invaluable. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;In ITRC terms, he will always be the Melech (King) of Israel as far as I'm concerned.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I will be moving in July and coming back to the US to wrap up some private projects and give two seminars at HP World. I look forward to meeting as many of you as I can in San Francisco. I encourage you all to go.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;From now until July, I'm kind of a free agent, with extra forum time while I do mundane things like pack and sell my home. It is wonderful to spend extra time with my children.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Please do not be concerned if later this Summer there are prolonged SEP absences from the forums. Its temporary and I'll be back, G-d willing I promise.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I thought about posting this, because it worried me when James R. Ferguson just stopped posting one day and I didn't know why. I think of my fellow forumers as a kind of extended family. I care about you all and like when Bill Hassell left HP, this is a significant change for me and I wanted to share.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So these are my plans. Thanks to each and every one of you for your support. I don't know if I'm going to end up as a consultant with US based clients, or Israeli, or just get another job. I'm hoping to work with big, fast, mission critical servers. Boys and their toys I guess.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;For the moment, I'm smelling the roses and spending a lot of high quality time with my children.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Feel free to contact me, there are lots of ways to do that, and if there are any replies, thanks, 1 point per customer, non requested, none required.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for those who read this lengthy, admittedly off topic post.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Steven E Protter&lt;BR /&gt;Senior HP-UX Administrator &lt;BR /&gt;Temporarily retired(Not really, work more now than before).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;SEP</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 01:12:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Steven E. Protter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T01:12:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Large changes for Steven E Protter (SEP)</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/large-changes-for-steven-e-protter-sep/m-p/4900340#M827583</link>
      <description>hi sep,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;thank you for informing us, it shows in your post that u truly care for the people here. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;in most (if not all) of your reply given, it has been invaluable and i have taken quite a bit of your advice in assisting with my work. u, clay, bill, peter and james are one of the few forumers who truly know their stuffs.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;i am puzzled as well as to why james ferguson left suddenly from this wonderful forum.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;last thing, u da man. go with what u truly believe.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;regards.&lt;BR /&gt;(p.s. no points for me)</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 01:38:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Joseph Loo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T01:38:45Z</dc:date>
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      <description>hi Steven,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;very nice reading this post, i get to know the  great SEP better... &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hope you get back foruming as soon as you settle down there...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Wish you all the best for your career as well as that of your family in Israel.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;kind regards&lt;BR /&gt;yogeeraj</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 01:42:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Yogeeraj_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T01:42:52Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hi Steven,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for sharing your decision with the forumâ  s peers. This shows your caring nature, and encouraging every one as a family member of this itrc. It is really a very good thought and gives us all the same feeling of being one big family solving issues for one another..&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for all your valuable answers and suggestions. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hope and wish that your new decision brings you and you family joy and helps in your wife's career prospects and above all you get good time to spend with your kids.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Wish you all the best&lt;BR /&gt;Indira</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 02:02:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Indira Aramandla</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T02:02:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Large changes for Steven E Protter (SEP)</title>
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      <description>Hi SEP,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You are almost greates climber in this forum. I am really admire with your experience...&lt;BR /&gt;In my mine, it is a bad new with our forum.&lt;BR /&gt;Anyway, I think the place that you live and work is not everything.&lt;BR /&gt;I think your decision is good! Family is very importance for us, isn't it?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hope that you will be back this forum as soon as possible...Everyone is looking, waiting and welcome you come back :):)&lt;BR /&gt;Hope that in Isarel you can find a good and suitable for you as you wish.&lt;BR /&gt;:):)&lt;BR /&gt;Best wishes for you.&lt;BR /&gt;Regard,&lt;BR /&gt;Hoang Chi Cong&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;PS: Please no point.....</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 02:03:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Hoang Chi Cong_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T02:03:04Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Nice to hear from you SEP. I too am puzzled when regular forumers disappear without trace - I've promised myself if I ever leave the world of HP-UX I'll post a goodbye message rather than leaving people puzzled (that is of course if anyone cared that I left!).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Good luck for the future and no points please.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Mark Syder (like the drink but spelt different)</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 02:24:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MarkSyder</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T02:24:42Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hi Stephen.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for sharing it with us. It realy feels as you care for this forum like you family. We wish you a good luck for your future life and hope you will get some new job soon.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;With Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;Devender</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 02:36:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Devender Khatana</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T02:36:56Z</dc:date>
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      <description>hi Steven.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;As i use ITRC forums to find threads similar to my problems , i often read and used you replies.&lt;BR /&gt;I admire your skills and therefor regret to see you leave,  even just temporary...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Good luck moving and settling ...  &lt;BR /&gt;Regards.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 02:51:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Henk Geurts</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T02:51:32Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Steve,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I feel honored that you chose to confer with Jil and I and I'm very glad that this has all worked out for you.  I wish you and yours God speed and the best of luck in your new life.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;See you in SanFran - first beer's on me!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Pete</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 05:18:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Pete Randall</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T05:18:01Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hi SEP,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I wish you the very best luck in your future country (Israel seems to be more peaceful now) and job. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;PS: some employers use to think we belong to them but they are so wrong... ;)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Eric Antunes</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 07:16:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Eric Antunes</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T07:16:02Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Wish you all the best in your future Endaveors.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Anil</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 07:36:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RAC_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T07:36:17Z</dc:date>
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      <description>SEP,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for letting us know instead of just fading away. Man if you were simply  moving to a different state I'll offer you the Harley ;-)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;My employer is based in Israel as well but they have dual HQ's - one in St. Louis and the other in Tel Aviv. Many many brilliant UNIX gurus in our Israel offices for which I am sure you'll make some acquaintances with them. Who knows - you may end up working for my firm.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Nelson Caparroso&lt;BR /&gt;"HP World 2004 - The Harley Man"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 07:51:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Zinky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T07:51:17Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hi Steven,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Wished we met at the time you were in the Netherlands. I would like to wish you and your family the best of luck in your new life.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for sharing your decision with us.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Robert-Jan</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 07:58:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Robert-Jan Goossens_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T07:58:29Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Steven,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I just want to congratulate you with your honesty and wish you and your family well in the future.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I went through a similar situation 5 years ago (though not continent wide) when for my wife's career - we moved from Vancouver to Calgary - different Provinces - but it was hard as we left our families and friends behind.  &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I really believe things happen for a reason.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm glad you will stay with us here on the ITRC - you are truly invaluable to us all.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Rgds...Geoff</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 08:16:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Geoff Wild</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T08:16:10Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Steve:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Many thanks for the valuble contributions you have made.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We all wish only the best for you and your family.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Take care!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 08:34:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rick Garland</dc:creator>
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      <description>Best of luck to you and your family in your upcoming adventures.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I know moving can be stressful.  I can't imagine moving between continents.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm sure everything will work out in your favor.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;God bless you and your family!</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 08:49:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Patrick Wallek</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T08:49:56Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Shalom Aleichem&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I'm fairly new to this extended "family", but I will try much harder to make it to SF now just to put faces to names.  &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The beauty of this family is its global nature.  I hope you find all the happiness this world has to give in your new home.  Enjoy your children - that time is precious.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for sharing.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;B&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 09:06:09 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Robert Bennett_3</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T09:06:09Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Beer always earns an extra point.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Nelson, perhaps you could click on the url in my profile, fill out the contact form and tell me more about your company. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Sounds like a company I should be in touch with.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks and warmest regards.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;SEP</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 09:28:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Steven E. Protter</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hi SEP !&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks to share this with your ITRC family. I really hope you'll be back soon and I am sure we will miss you here.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best regards,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Fred&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 09:31:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Fred Ruffet</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-05-06T09:31:25Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hello Steven,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Moving one continent to other itself is an adventure! and it becomes more challenging if the weather,culture, society is totally different then one you are accustomed with. &lt;BR /&gt;Hope to see you again here soon.&lt;BR /&gt;Best wishes to  you and your family.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;-USA.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 10:07:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Uday_S_Ankolekar</dc:creator>
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