topic Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005 in Operating System - HP-UX

ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:45:49 GMT

I noticed a lot of (very) good answers this week, and an frightening amount of (very) good answers that did get no points assigned.
I also noted some new posters just gave a bunny (the full 10 points) to every answer they got.
Neither is good for this forum.

10354 points this week. 318 posts (113 questions, 205 answers).
16 promotions and 25 waiting in line.

Fast movers are compared to archive/id-20050525.txt.gz
Pre-scanning 54554 members, 12488 have points prev 20050525

Fast Movers:

ID Diff Point Bunn Rate Last Msg Name
============ ===== ===== ==== ======= ======== =========================
BR776558 +323 12060 556 100.0 % 20050530 Uwe Zessin
CA569821 +313 48497 2393 100.4 % 20050601 Steven E Protter
BR41967 +218 16901 659 100.8 % 20050531 procura
CA861383 +203 11311 476 47.1 % 20050531 Rainald
CA1147460 +194 8391 360 102.7 % 20050601 Pat
CA71765 +182 6104 285 82.3 % 20050531 Rick Garland
CA1046449 +182 1533 73 100.0 % 20050531 Devender Khatana
BR170990 +169 17597 934 100.7 % 20050531 Kurt Beyers
CA1263969 +167 417 21 100.0 % 20050531 Tv
CA1274022 +159 741 38 - 20050531 Gopi Sekar
CA648840 +153 13727 716 100.0 % 20050531 Geoff Wild
CA874247 +151 16098 929 46.2 % 20050531 drew dimmick
CA592260 +146 27529 1226 100.0 % 20050531 harry d brown jr
CA843897 +145 2549 168 - 20050601 Ermin Borovac
BR765741 +143 2768 119 - 20050531 Volker Halle
CA1228403 +136 457 16 85.7 % 20050531 Suraj Singh
CA275236 +134 61087 3414 100.0 % 20050601 A. Clay Stephenson
CA753474 +126 7286 364 100.0 % 20050531 Stuart Browne
CA538848 +123 3962 186 100.0 % 20050531 Kent Ostby
CA486994 +117 26704 1677 96.2 % 20050601 Bill Hassell
CA18242 +116 31165 1870 100.1 % 20050601 Patrick Wallek
BR148616 +114 21038 1160 100.0 % 20050530 Robert-Jan Goossens
CA614316 +113 980 60 - 20050531 Eric Schmidt
BR859147 +113 511 23 100.0 % 20050531 renarios
CA13182 +106 38521 1863 100.7 % 20050531 Pete Randall

Marked 25 fast movers in 12488 members

14 Olympian's
40 Pharaoh's
159 Royalty's
226 Wizard's
251 Graduate's
339 Pro's

Promoted to Royalty:
2549 20050601 255 168 - CA843897 Ermin Borovac
2521 20050531 327 71 99.2 % BR767265 Wim Van den Wyngaert

Promoted to Graduate:
542 20050531 158 33 98.5 % BR768893 Christian Deutsch
533 20050531 190 29 0.0 % CA1256535 Andrzej Kowalik
520 20050530 100 21 100.0 % BR651734 Henk Geurts
511 20050531 146 23 100.0 % BR859147 renarios
501 20050531 76 25 100.0 % CA494465 Jesse Dougherty
500 20050529 261 25 78.6 % CA859527 Michael Dillman

Promoted to Pro:
324 20050531 80 13 100.0 % BR788979 cem
273 20050530 58 13 100.0 % CA1240948 Farid Herman
270 20050526 55 15 97.1 % CA4258 Greg Vaidman
259 20050509 44 14 - BR741287 Frauke Denker
257 20050530 61 13 67.3 % CA384034 Stuart Abramson
255 20050525 77 11 - CA300046 Robert Salter
251 20050525 39 17 100.0 % CA589462 marie-noelle jeanson
250 20050531 72 11 59.2 % BR719805 Josiah Carberry

Almost Pharaoh:
7399 20050601 789 267 95.3 % CA1035813 Cheryl G.

Almost Wizard:
980 20050531 140 60 - CA614316 Eric Schmidt
946 20050528 317 47 99.0 % CA1160181 Rajasekhar
944 20050511 416 55 0.0 % CA1091184 Ashish
940 20050527 203 43 - CA957742 mike
938 20050525 379 53 - BR802806 Saul
919 20050531 377 50 - CA939358 Terry Hutchings

Almost Graduate:
495 20050512 154 17 69.9 % CA297974 Tommy Brown
494 20050513 127 28 94.3 % BR707340 Artyom Voronchihin
486 20050512 86 18 100.0 % CA629928 Dani Seely
485 20050518 95 21 - CA945358 Jake Lundberg
481 20050531 78 27 64.7 % CA963429 Craig A. Berry
477 20050502 145 20 0.0 % CA376471 Vincente Fernandes
473 20050529 119 23 100.0 % CA1181037 Paul Walling
472 20050531 174 24 0.0 % CA486387 Emil Velez
468 20050523 155 25 100.0 % CA944939 Larry Straile
467 20050518 217 21 100.0 % CA947603 Pat Flanagan
467 20050527 97 21 99.1 % BR687869 Nick Brace

Almost Pro:
249 20050531 71 15 100.0 % BR843827 Oguz Kutlu Asik
247 20050524 31 14 - BR780677 Joseph Huber
238 20050526 51 13 100.0 % CA938282 Neal Bowman
237 20050531 73 0 - CA1263359 Venkatesh
233 20050527 112 18 100.0 % CA936692 Kevin Brisson
231 20050515 80 9 73.6 % CA623471 Simon
231 20050505 61 0 - CA487319 Craig Gilmore

00 .. 09 % 1427
10 .. 19 % 297
20 .. 29 % 400
30 .. 39 % 426
40 .. 49 % 356
50 .. 59 % 652
60 .. 69 % 571
70 .. 79 % 444
80 .. 89 % 505
90 .. 99 % 445
100 % 1421
101 .. 109 % 52
110 .. 119 % 3
120 .. 129 % 1
130 .. 139 % 3
140 .. 149 % 2
150 .. 159 % 2
160 .. 169 % 1
200 .. 209 % 2
Avarage: 54.8 %

History:
May 2005: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=870331
April 2005: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=850992
March 2005: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=826003
February 2005: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=804511
January 2005: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=780287
December 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=753600
November 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=732458
October 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=712082
September 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=685252
August 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=657865
July 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=629519
June 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=606175
May 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=581095
April 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=542422
March 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=484667
February 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=421646
January 2004: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=351586
December 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=289847
November 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=245544
October 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=231763
(Rest still useless, now the content has gone):
September 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=217412
Augustus 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=210824
July 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=206305
June 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=69109
May 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=55987
April 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=194940
March 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=199543
February 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=51738
January 2003: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=183983
December 2002: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=186414
November 2002: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=140956

Full stats available on http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/ , https://www.beepz.com/personal/merijn/, http://www.cmve.net/~merijn/ , or http://www.hpux.ws/merijn/

http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/stats.html takes an attempt in explaining all the numbers. I hope to have explained the FAQ's there.

Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Jan van den Ende — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:04:26 GMT

Merijn,

may I please invite you to pay a visit to the first few VMS pages?

Recently there has been a whole shower of promotions, and I think your famous stats would be highly welcomed!

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Sat, 04 Jun 2005 12:09:37 GMT

You may invite me, but don't expect too much.

My laptop's harddisk just crashed unrebootable. I used that box for congrats.

Replacing the disk is not the hardest problem, but how do I get the data from the old disk, including the system, back to live?

Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn [ taking donations from now on ]

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Antoniov. — Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:47:11 GMT

Merijn,
may I help you in some way?

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:55:25 GMT

Probably my laptop will be returned with a new blank disk

How do I get the content of the old disk (block 16 unreadable) back to life?

I have /some/ backups, but I will have no backup of my bookmarks and so on.
Since my laptop was very ... errr ... alive, LOTS changed every day, and making 40 Gb backups every day of a 4200 rpm laptop disk just takes away the fun

Second problem is that you cannot place a laptop disk in a workstation/pc/server/... and use dd/perl/c/... to see what is left to extract. The connectors are ... errr ... different.

So fore home-work, I have revived cygwin to an acceptable level: ssl/ssh/rsync all work fine now, but cygwin's X-server still refuses HP's X forwarding.

Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Fred Ruffet — Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:30:46 GMT

hmmm.... well... Try to install a linux rescue system on a memory stick (http://slax.linux-live.org/?lang=en for example). Get it with a good network module available and also module for the FS you have on the disk. dd it thhrough network to a distant file (yeah, I know 40GB is big) then you may be able to dd it the other way to the new disk on a secondary partition (if disk is bigger) or an other machine...

It may only be a good lookin therory, but it may work.

Good luck,

Fred

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Uwe Zessin — Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:40:53 GMT

I think you're looking for something like this, aren't you?

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/laptopsforless/25to35laphar.html

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Antoniov. — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 02:26:31 GMT

I understand your laptop os is not windows so I'm not able to help you :-(
Uwe's link is a good starting point.
After you reinstall new hd, you could use usb portable hd like follow
http://www.usb-2-0.com/usb-2-0-hard-drive.html
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/drives/5ad4/
http://www.usb-ware.com/ads-usb-2-hard-drive-kit.htm
and many other devices.
You can backup every day form internal HD to external usb box in little time.

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 02:41:45 GMT

Once the new disk is up and running, Uwe's link will have to help me with restoring what I've lost.

The OS is NOT the problem. Yes, the laptop does not run Winblows (of course). It ran SuSE 9.3 Linux, and it will run that again.

My workstation is SuSE 9.2, so I've got all I want - OS wise. Including bootable DVD's and such.

More points to earn in giving me the best link to (reiser)FS recovery sw. No points for NTFS or FAT support. My FS is reiserfs. I already planned to use either dd (which might stop dead on the bad blocks), perl or dedicated C to read the old disk once the `Uwe'-device is installed (my colleage ordered one from a european site, he also thought it a good idea to have that available anyway).

Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn [ real stats again tomorrow :) ]

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Eric Antunes — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:19:02 GMT

Hi Merijin,

Try this one:

http://www.microlite.com/

Best Regards,

Eric Antunes

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Eric Antunes — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:33:45 GMT

Your link to http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/id-20050601.html is named "25 May 2005" in http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/#Statistics

Eric

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:34:48 GMT

Again, I am NOT in search of backup programs or hardware. We are already in the process of setting up a 8 Tb backup system.

I also *do* have backups of the vital data, I will just be missing the personal things. It was just a very inconvenient moment to happen, but that is probably always the case isn't it?

Once the new disk is up, it's just a question of re-installing Opera, rsync the forum data and on we go.

Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn [ not written with i j i ]

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Eric Antunes — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:43:18 GMT

"More points to earn in giving me the best link to (reiser)FS recovery sw."

I must have misunderstood it but there is no recovery without backup...

"but that is probably always the case isn't it?"

I think so. I do backup my personal stuffs but only on a monthly base.

Best Regards,

Eric Antunes

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:55:14 GMT

Of course there is recovery without backup: recover from the crashed source, whatever that is.

I have quite some experience now with recovering the DATA from a crashed NTFS partition, which even the commercial products were unable to revive, using the NTFS kernel drivers from Linux, I read the still intact disk block by block and recovered 18 Gb of data files!

I want some software that will help me recovering the data files (maybe even the complete FS structure) from a crashed disk of which certain blocks are so damaged that they won't read.

See this as if you always made a complete backup, and your backup media was damaged.

Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn [ not desperate, but certainly seeing some temptations ahead ]

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Steven E. Protter — Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:17:19 GMT

Before you service the laptop:

http://www.sysresccd.org/

Download the distribution, make a cd and boot off of it.

I'm almost sure you will be able to recover almost any file you need off that disk.

Its the tool I use to rescue many linux and windows laptops. Kinda funny having to use Linux to save windows isn't it.

SEP

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Thu, 09 Jun 2005 03:15:40 GMT

Steven, I might receive my laptop back today.
I'll try that out, and assign points after that :)

Meanwhile, a network glitch caused statistics delay. I had to rerun the darn thing by hand.

11810 points this week. 198 posts (72 questions, 126 answers).
7 promotions and 27 waiting in line.

Fast movers are compared to archive/id-20050601.txt.gz
Pre-scanning 54601 members, 12538 have points prev 20050601

Fast Movers:

ID Diff Point Bunn Rate Last Msg Name
============ ===== ===== ==== ======= ======== =========================
CA569821 +507 49004 2422 100.4 % 20050608 Steven E Protter
BR170990 +294 17891 946 100.7 % 20050608 Kurt Beyers
CA861383 +261 11572 490 47.4 % 20050608 Rainald
CA1147460 +260 8651 369 102.7 % 20050608 Pat
CA275236 +257 61344 3429 100.0 % 20050608 A. Clay Stephenson
CA1274022 +233 974 49 - 20050607 Gopi Sekar
CA560748 +210 4117 238 100.0 % 20050608 Joseph Loo
CA1141886 +194 4463 235 100.0 % 20050608 Muthukumar
CA874247 +189 16287 929 46.2 % 20050531 drew dimmick
CA753474 +178 7464 373 100.0 % 20050608 Stuart Browne
CA592260 +173 27702 1226 100.0 % 20050531 harry d brown jr
BR661700 +172 18606 986 95.7 % 20050608 Leif Halvarsson
BR840990 +171 1985 87 97.6 % 20050607 Stephen Keane
BR776558 +168 12228 565 100.0 % 20050608 Uwe Zessin
CA976946 +150 184 1 - 20050531 comarow
CA13182 +143 38664 1872 100.7 % 20050607 Pete Randall
CA18242 +135 31300 1879 100.1 % 20050607 Patrick Wallek
BR765741 +129 2897 125 - 20050608 Volker Halle
CA1256535 +129 662 39 0.0 % 20050608 Andrzej Kowalik
CA375908 +119 4047 242 100.0 % 20050606 Denver Osborn
CA899122 +118 886 35 100.0 % 20050531 xyko
CA1228403 +116 573 23 85.7 % 20050608 Suraj Singh
CA843897 +113 2662 168 - 20050601 Ermin Borovac
CA408875 +106 6450 286 97.5 % 20050607 Laurie Gellatly
CA1085692 +102 436 23 33.3 % 20050607 Nkassas
CA648840 +100 13827 716 100.0 % 20050531 Geoff Wild
BR691259 +100 1352 66 100.0 % 20050608 Thayanidhi
BR41967 +99 17000 664 100.7 % 20050608 procura

Marked 28 fast movers in 12538 members

14 Olympian's
40 Pharaoh's
159 Royalty's
227 Wizard's
251 Graduate's
343 Pro's

Promoted to Wizard:
1000 20050531 140 60 - CA614316 Eric Schmidt

Promoted to Graduate:
573 20050608 168 23 85.7 % CA1228403 Suraj Singh

Promoted to Pro:
296 20050605 85 14 - CA1263359 Venkatesh
282 20050221 71 9 - CA841348 Saurav
281 20050607 35 17 - BR780677 Joseph Huber
255 20050606 56 15 100.0 % CA1040601 senthil kumar
251 20050607 84 15 100.0 % BR843827 Oguz Kutlu Asik

Almost Pharaoh:
7464 20050608 1016 373 100.0 % CA753474 Stuart Browne
7462 20050608 796 268 98.1 % CA1035813 Cheryl G.

Almost Wizard:
974 20050607 176 49 - CA1274022 Gopi Sekar
950 20050607 206 44 100.0 % BR720220 Stf
947 20050608 385 54 - BR802806 Saul
946 20050605 320 47 99.0 % CA1160181 Rajasekhar
944 20050527 203 43 - CA957742 mike
944 20050511 416 55 0.0 % CA1091184 Ashish
934 20050608 197 38 100.0 % BR165264 Andrew Merritt
932 20050531 377 50 - CA939358 Terry Hutchings

Almost Graduate:
495 20050512 154 17 69.9 % CA297974 Tommy Brown
494 20050513 127 28 94.3 % BR707340 Artyom Voronchihin
489 20050531 78 27 64.7 % CA963429 Craig A. Berry
488 20050512 86 18 100.0 % CA629928 Dani Seely
485 20050518 95 21 - CA945358 Jake Lundberg
483 20050603 124 23 100.0 % CA1181037 Paul Walling
479 20050608 90 23 - CA1057653 Han Pilmeyer
478 20050531 174 24 0.0 % CA486387 Emil Velez
475 20050603 98 22 98.2 % BR687869 Nick Brace
474 20050603 0 0 33.3 % BR716041 Borislav Perkov
468 20050523 155 25 100.0 % CA944939 Larry Straile
467 20050518 217 21 100.0 % CA947603 Pat Flanagan
462 20050513 207 31 - BR818799 Kevin Adams

Almost Pro:
240 20050515 80 9 73.6 % CA623471 Simon
238 20050526 51 13 100.0 % CA938282 Neal Bowman
234 20050607 59 13 100.0 % CA1138732 Amit Agarwal
233 20050527 112 18 100.0 % CA936692 Kevin Brisson

00 .. 09 % 1426
10 .. 19 % 298
20 .. 29 % 405
30 .. 39 % 424
40 .. 49 % 357
50 .. 59 % 653
60 .. 69 % 571
70 .. 79 % 446
80 .. 89 % 506
90 .. 99 % 449
100 % 1422
101 .. 109 % 52
110 .. 119 % 3
120 .. 129 % 1
130 .. 139 % 3
140 .. 149 % 2
150 .. 159 % 2
160 .. 169 % 1
200 .. 209 % 2
Avarage: 54.8 %

Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Eric Antunes — Thu, 09 Jun 2005 03:52:34 GMT

Hi Merijin,

This is not recovery, it's rescue...

Partition Magic 8 (Symantec) supports extendedx partitions (Linux kernels below 2.2 do not support extendedx).

Best Regards,

Eric Antunes

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Steven E. Protter — Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:31:15 GMT

Great Merijn,

You won't be able to fix it. You will be able to access it and get a lot of files off of it with rescuecd.

Glad to hear from you.

SEP

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

Antoniov. — Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:49:45 GMT

Merijn,
happy you are ready again :-)
Great job.

Antonio Vigliotti

Re: ITRC Forum statistics for June 2005

H.Merijn Brand (procura — Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:37:27 GMT

I'm ready by far. I don't even have my laptop back yet!
I'm doing this in my struggle to get Cygwin to do as *I* want.
Life^WIT has currently turned against me. No time for fun :(

Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn