topic Re: netscape on rx2600 in Operating System - HP-UX

netscape on rx2600

Bill Kimbell — Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:30:46 GMT

Hello all,
I am running HPUX 11.23 on a rx2600 with a HP L1925 monitor using the built-in graphics adapter. Whenever I run netscape the browser image fragments(wrap-around effect on all quadrants) and is virtually unreadable. I have applied the current netscape patches but nothing seems to cure this.
Any clues?
Thanks.
Bill

Re: netscape on rx2600

Steven E. Protter — Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:20:53 GMT

Netscape is pretty far over the hill.

http://www.hp.com/go/mozilla

or

http://www.mozilla.org

netscape based works better if you get hp ported depots.

SEP

Re: netscape on rx2600

Bill Kimbell — Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:13:47 GMT

Hi Stephen,
I have tried Mozilla also..same trash.
It is an interestesting effect, if I drag the cursor over areas where the browser window should be it "erases" the overlayed pixels and allows me to see what's underneath.
I am guessing that it might me some 'backing store' or other Xwindows setting but my config is 'out-of-the-box' generic. I have not seen this behaviour before. The rest of X seems to be functioning normally.
Bill

Re: netscape on rx2600

Chris Vail — Mon, 03 Jan 2005 10:25:33 GMT

I haven't played with an rx2600. However, try cycling through the resolutions offered at boot time. You might want to try a smaller resolution. I'm guessing that the hardware and software configurations don't match.

Chris

Re: netscape on rx2600

Bill Kimbell — Mon, 03 Jan 2005 11:10:20 GMT

Hi Chris,
The only options that I saw in the EFI (HPUX on Itanium) was to select the path for the console, no graphics choices were offered as there was for HPUX on PA-RISC.
I have tried different resolutions through SAM, I could make it worse!
(Sorry for misspelling your name..Steven!)
Bill

Re: netscape on rx2600

Gregory Fruth — Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:19:39 GMT

Make sure the monitor is configured to
use the correct input jack. Initially I
connected my HP 2025 LCD monitor to my zx6000
using the supplied digital DVI cable but the
screen image was clipped off at the bottom
and really blurry. However, using the
monitor's input selection button I switched
the monitor to use the digital DVI input,
and that fixed the screen image.

Re: netscape on rx2600

Bill Kimbell — Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:11:34 GMT

Hi Gregory,
Unfortunately the only video cable supplied with the system is the 15 pin D type analog cable so I can't switch to the DVI connector.
I'll see if I can locate a cable and test it out.
Thanks.
Bill

Re: netscape on rx2600

Gregory Fruth — Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:31:21 GMT

If you've connected the monitor using the
DB15 cable, I think the monitor setting you
want is "Analog D-SUB".

Upon reading your post again, it sounds
more like an X problem. Does X look OK
when you're not using Netscape?

Re: netscape on rx2600

Bill Kimbell — Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:46:03 GMT

Hi Gregory,
Yes, X looks ok outside of the browser context.
Anything that uses the browser i.e. Service Control Manager, behaves the same.
Mozilla is an improvement over Netscape but still not a solution.
With Mozilla I get the lower left corner of the browser displayed in the top right corner of the screen and the bottom right corner of the browser display in the top left corner of the screen. It doesn't seem to matter what size the browser is reduced to.
I have just noticed that the amount of trash displayed outside the browser seems to be related to the overall size of the data area, i.e. the amount of scrolling required to view the entire data set.
Refresh seems to clear up the screen when I use Mozilla but can make things even worse when I use Netscape.
Still a mystery!
Bill

Re: netscape on rx2600

Gregory Fruth — Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:01:18 GMT

I've seen a similar problem before, but I
think it was on Linux with Xfree86. On IPF
HP seems to be using Xfree86 so perhaps it's
an Xfree86 problem. Check to see if you have
the latest X (server and client) patches from
HP.

P.S. I was not aware HP shipped rx machines
with local X graphics enabled. Did you
order it with a graphics card?

Re: netscape on rx2600

Bill Kimbell — Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:25:36 GMT

Hi Gregory,
There is a built-in vga on the Management Processor board which was standard on the RX and optional on the ZX.
You're right about Xf86. I ran graphinfo and Xf86 is used on 11.23.
I'll try patching this guy and see if that helps.
Bill

Re: netscape on rx2600

Alex Glennie — Wed, 05 Jan 2005 07:03:11 GMT

fyi the Xf86 Xserver has backing store feature disabled by default :

vi /etc/X11/XF86Config

add Option "BackingStore" "on" to the "Monitor" or "Screen" section of the
config file, then restart the Xserver.....

If that fails I'd think about the latest Xserver and associated graphics patches for 11.23 PHSS_30502 etc ....

Re: netscape on rx2600

Bill Kimbell — Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:17:27 GMT

Hi Alex,
Added the backingstore option to XF86Config but it didn't seem to make difference.
I loaded the August Patch Bundle but am unable to install the September Bundle. Downloaded it twice and receive a blocksize error when I untar the file. If I try to create the depot I get an error regarding corrupt files.
Both these Bundles were required before loading the X patch. Looks like one of those "out of the pan and into the fire" scenarios.
Bill

Re: netscape on rx2600

Christian Deutsch_1 — Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:19:15 GMT

Dear Bill,

1.As far as I can tell this is a graphics driver problem.
2.If possible, why not just start a VNC server on your rx2600 and use a VNC viewer on any other machine to use X on your rx2600? It's free, easy to use, fast enough, very flexible and you'll never again need to worry about graphics driver or X server problems on your rx2600.

Kind regards, Christian