topic Re: HPUX Rumor in Operating System - HP-UX

HPUX Rumor

Joe Hege — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 15:59:59 GMT

I keep hearing the rumor that HP is going to drop HPUX. Anybody heard this, any info..

Thanks

Joe

Re: HPUX Rumor

Santosh Nair_1 — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 16:07:12 GMT

Well given the fact that they've just recently merged with Compaq and given the fact that they just layed off most of the team that ported HPUX to the IA64, this rumor seems to have some merit. But even if it were true, HP wouldn't be able to drop support for HPUX for at least the next 5 years. Hopefully it won't come to that though.

-Santosh

Re: HPUX Rumor

harry d brown jr — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 16:07:49 GMT

It's true, Bill Gates told me in a dream, that HP is going to switch to the so powerful XP os.

Actually the dream had to be a nightmare, because we all know that MS doesn't produce OS's worth spit. Maybe BG will get a clue one day and move his app's to NTux??

Seriously, one day, in the maybe not so distant future, a single OS based on opensource linux, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

Re: HPUX Rumor

Sridhar Bhaskarla — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 16:09:59 GMT

This rumor stands for good humor.

-Sri

Re: HPUX Rumor

James R. Ferguson — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 16:13:41 GMT

Hi Joe:

Carly knows. Interestingly, I just read an interview with Sun CEO Scott McNealy in which he suggests that HP is going the way of the big systems integrator in lieu of enterprise computing.

http://www.crn.com/Components/Search/Article.asp?ArticleID=30245

Obviously the only constant today is change, and only time will tell. Biological evolution shows use one true lesson, though: adapt or die.

Regards!

...JRF...

Re: HPUX Rumor

paul courry — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:18:57 GMT

What will they do instead? Pour money into MPE development?

Two words..... Fat Chance

Re: HPUX Rumor

Sachin Patel — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:24:24 GMT

I know only HPUX and I am not in mood to collect unemployment payment.

Sachin

Re: HPUX Rumor

Santosh Nair_1 — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:28:15 GMT

Well they could always move to Linux...they have one of the main Linux advocates working for them, i.e. Bruce Perens. Anything would be better than having to support M$ software.

-Santosh

Re: HPUX Rumor

Deshpande Prashant — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:35:57 GMT

Rumor or nightmare?
Linux might be way.
Not so soon, I guess.

Prashant.

Re: HPUX Rumor

linuxfan — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:56:25 GMT

Hi,

Carly Fiorina is heading Fortune's TOP 50 Most powerful women in business. Gone from the list are Deborah "Hurricane Debby" Hopkins, from Lucent (LU) and Ellen Hancock (EXDS) , which is now in bankruptcy, and Morgan Stanley's Mary Meeker

http://www.fortune.com/indexw.jhtml?channel=list.jhtml&list_frag=list_5columns_powerwomen.jhtml&list=22&_requestid=12825

I don't think HP wants to go the Lucent or the Exodus(which btw filed for chapter 11) way ;)

-Regards
Ramesh

Re: HPUX Rumor

Dave Wherry — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 19:50:55 GMT

This rumor has been around for awhile now. One version of it had UX being dropped for Linux.
At HP World Dale Hammer, North American High End Server Product Manager, spoke of the future of PA-RISC processors. There are at least 2 more generations of PA-RISC chips scheduled out over the next 2+ years. Since those chips rarely make it to market on time, it should be longer.
I just don't see them porting Linux to PA-RISC and dropping UX. It just doesn't make sense to me. But, a lot of things HP does just doesn't make sense to me.

Re: HPUX Rumor

Santosh Nair_1 — Mon, 01 Oct 2001 20:59:25 GMT

Well HP wouldn't really have to port Linux to PA-Risc since (supposedly) HP strategic platform is the IA64 and Linux already runs there (long before Windows 2k I might add :-)

Besides, I thought the the PA-Risc port is already underway:

http://www.parisc-linux.org/index.html

not to mention the fact the 11i has Linux APIs...so is it really so farfetched that HP moves to Linux?

-Santosh

Re: HPUX Rumor

John Waller — Tue, 02 Oct 2001 14:33:58 GMT

I hope this is just a rumor.
Lets face it , HP-UX has been going for years and has a good track record for reliability and scaleability. LINUX is still a new born baby which is having problems itself with the various vendors arguing about costs / licencing and standards. I personally believe that if Carley is dumb enough to drop development for HP-UX she is just handing the world over to the devil himself and we might as well just rename the earth to Planet Microsoft.

Re: HPUX Rumor

Dan Zucker — Wed, 03 Oct 2001 02:17:20 GMT

Rumors are wonderful things. They can cause work to be completed, or people to change objectives.

A "fact" that was told me in Oct 99 was that HP had sold their HP3000(MPE) support and were not ging to continue the line. All software HAD to be ported to HPUX before y2k. BTW The machine is still working fine with MPEiX4.0. The dates are still correct, schedules are still running, and the few people left on the machine are "happy, satisfied customers".

Re: HPUX Rumor

Wodisch — Thu, 04 Oct 2001 18:26:34 GMT

Hello,

well that is true, of course: in about ten or twenty
years nobody will be using UN*X as it is today anymore!
So won't HP...

The interesting part of your "rumour" is the time frame
WHEN this is going to happen...

;-)

Wodisch

Re: HPUX Rumor

Denver Osborn — Fri, 05 Oct 2001 00:32:24 GMT

too funny!

I heard that unix was going to be around longer than WINDOW$ :)

As long as there are unix nerds there's going to be unix! long live the nerd!

-denver

Re: HPUX Rumor

Michael Tully — Fri, 05 Oct 2001 00:53:54 GMT

My propeller is still turning... I want it to for at least another few years..... Seeing HP are still selling systems with HPUX 11 & 11i there is very little chance of it going down the gurgler for at least 5-10 years..... These systems still need to be supported, patched etc. So I guess we wait until the FAT LADY sings.... Broken Windows.... I hardly think so!

Cheers
-Michael

Re: HPUX Rumor

Mike Hassell — Fri, 05 Oct 2001 02:07:08 GMT

Fear the penguin!

I mean what *other* OS supports so many different platforms?

http://www.linux.org.uk/Architecture.html

The future of UNIX is linux..

AIX -> linux

HP-UX? who knows, only time will tell :)

-Mike

Re: HPUX Rumor

Keiran Sweet — Fri, 05 Oct 2001 03:25:46 GMT

I dont know about dropping HP-UX...
Its obvious Tru64 is going to go, based on the fact that it is not really a 'player' when it comes to midrange or enterprise Unix systems and that The Alpha Architecture has been served its last rights ( I belive they have sold the rights to Intel?)

And Linux being the future of Unix?
I doubt it, I have been using Linux for the last 3 years and i grow even more concerned everday about the quality of the code and how it is managed. BinUtils and the kernel are developed by different people, who dont communicate leaving the code scrappy at times, What really needs to be done is moving the entire lot of code into a central repository managed by CVS like the BSDs. There the code can be fully documented, and the OS can be audited for performance and security (Buffer Overflows and Format Strings bugs can be a thing of the past..)

And the Scalability of Linux is a whole other issue to be debated... PA-RISCs port is in very early stages, RedHat, as of 7 has dropped its support for Sparc (Not sure about other distros) and Alpha as mentioned has its days numbered. I guess we will have to see what IA-64 has in store for everyone..

Just my 0.02c

Cheers,

Keiran

Re: HPUX Rumor

Tim D Fulford — Fri, 05 Oct 2001 10:19:07 GMT

The bottom line will be the bottom dollar. If HP-UX makes money it will remain (evolving). It could be rebranded like Sun did to SunOS [which became Solaris], effectively a marketing exercise.

It's true that HP have had/having some financial problems but the world seems to be sliding down that road, so there does seem to be a level playing field.

Tim