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    <title>topic Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces in Operating System - HP-UX</title>
    <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429255#M859522</link>
    <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;the idea is to reduce space management.&lt;BR /&gt;With a uniform extentsize, it does not matter at all, if your tablespace is extent-fragmented, because all newly extents to be allocated will fit into any hole that a dropped object has left.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Volker</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:15:03 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Volker Borowski</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2004-11-24T15:15:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Locally Managed Tablespaces</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429248#M859515</link>
      <description>1. When using locally managed tablespaces, the default allocation type is system. Can we know the extent size?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;2. What benifit does all extents have the same size in a locally managed tablespace?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Eric</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:34:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429248#M859515</guid>
      <dc:creator>ericfjchen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-11-23T20:34:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429249#M859516</link>
      <description>1. &lt;BR /&gt;select TABLESPACE_NAME, INITIAL_EXTENT, NEXT_EXTENT, MIN_EXTENTS, MAX_EXTENTS, MIN_EXTLEN, EXTENT_MANAGEMENT, ALLOCATION_TYPE, PLUGGED_IN from dba_tablespaces where tablespace_name like 'LOCAL%';  &lt;BR /&gt;2. Better space management due to:  &lt;BR /&gt;- uniform extent sizes;       &lt;BR /&gt;- reduced data dictionary access.  &lt;BR /&gt;Reduced tablespace fragmentation.  &lt;BR /&gt;Better management of temporary space.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:07:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429249#M859516</guid>
      <dc:creator>twang</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-11-23T21:07:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429250#M859517</link>
      <description>select TABLESPACE_NAME, INITIAL_EXTENT, NEXT_EXTENT, MIN_EXTENTS, MAX_EXTENTS, MIN_EXTLEN, EXTENT_MANAGEMENT, ALLOCATION_TYPE, PLUGGED_IN &lt;BR /&gt;from dba_tablespaces &lt;BR /&gt;where EXTENT_MANAGEMENT ='LOCAL'&lt;BR /&gt;and ALLOCATION_TYPE='SYSTEM'&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;===============&lt;BR /&gt;The cloumn "NEXT_EXTENT" is NULL.....</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:33:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429250#M859517</guid>
      <dc:creator>ericfjchen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-11-23T21:33:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429251#M859518</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;NEXT_EXTENT would be the same as INITIAL_EXTENT.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;greetings,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Michael&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:11:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429251#M859518</guid>
      <dc:creator>Michael Schulte zur Sur</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-11-23T22:11:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429252#M859519</link>
      <description>Can we define the initial extent size when creating a locally managed tablespace?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:28:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429252#M859519</guid>
      <dc:creator>ericfjchen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-11-23T22:28:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429253#M859520</link>
      <description>Hi Eric&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;we use Uniform extent for our tablespaces.&lt;BR /&gt;We have different tablespaces for DATA and Indexes and also group by average size of objects (SMALL,MEDIUM,LARGE).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;As mentioned you save cpu and IO vs dictionary managed tablespaces and remove fragmentation. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;example :&lt;BR /&gt;create tablespace SMALL_DATA  datafile '&lt;DATAFILE path=""&gt;'&lt;BR /&gt;SIZE  100M&lt;BR /&gt;extent management local uniform size 128K;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Regards&lt;BR /&gt;Jean-Luc&lt;/DATAFILE&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 04:14:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429253#M859520</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jean-Luc Oudart</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-11-24T04:14:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429254#M859521</link>
      <description>Eric,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;initial extents are used when creating a table. You can specify the extent size for the tablespace and there is no initial and next there. See attachment.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;greetings,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Michael&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:07:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429254#M859521</guid>
      <dc:creator>Michael Schulte zur Sur</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-11-24T08:07:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429255#M859522</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;the idea is to reduce space management.&lt;BR /&gt;With a uniform extentsize, it does not matter at all, if your tablespace is extent-fragmented, because all newly extents to be allocated will fit into any hole that a dropped object has left.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Volker</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:15:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429255#M859522</guid>
      <dc:creator>Volker Borowski</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-11-24T15:15:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429256#M859523</link>
      <description>1. If you choose locally managed tablespaces,&lt;BR /&gt;which one (auotallocate &amp;amp; uniform) do you prefer? Why?&lt;BR /&gt;2. If you choose locally managed tablespaces &amp;amp; uniform, how to determine a better extent size? &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Eric</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:03:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429256#M859523</guid>
      <dc:creator>ericfjchen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-11-24T20:03:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429257#M859524</link>
      <description>UNIFORM size should be the Initial_Extent of DBA_TABLESPACES. &lt;BR /&gt;In my view it should be 5, 10, or 20 times the block size and not 8 times the block size(oracle recommend).</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:25:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429257#M859524</guid>
      <dc:creator>twang</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-11-24T22:25:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces</title>
      <link>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429258#M859525</link>
      <description>hi,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;question 1.&lt;BR /&gt;I prefer pctincrease = 0, initial=next.  A locally managed tablespace with uniform extents makes that the "de-facto" rule, you cannot subvert it as you can with a dictionary managed tables.  It totally avoids fragmentation -- it is impossible to have fragmentation in these tablespaces.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Also note that, Locally managed tablespaces are much faster at allocating and de-allocating extents - many order of magnitudes faster.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Remember that, Locally managed tablespaces decrease contention on the data dictionary.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;question 2.&lt;BR /&gt;I put them in to "small", "medium" and "large" tablespaces based on my guess as to how big or small they will end up.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I use the following:&lt;BR /&gt;------------------------------------------------------------&lt;BR /&gt;                 Uniform     Size    Autoextend   Striped&lt;BR /&gt;                 Extent              Maxsize      over disks&lt;BR /&gt;------------------------------------------------------------&lt;BR /&gt;tbs_lmt_small     64K        10M     50M          all disks&lt;BR /&gt;tbs_lmt_medium    1024K      100M    1024M        all disks&lt;BR /&gt;tbs_lmt_large     10M        1024M   2048M        all disks&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You may have many combinations of those!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;hope this helps!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;regards&lt;BR /&gt;Yogeeraj&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:05:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.hpe.com/t5/operating-system-hp-ux/locally-managed-tablespaces/m-p/3429258#M859525</guid>
      <dc:creator>Yogeeraj_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2004-11-25T01:05:32Z</dc:date>
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